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The Cynic wrote:

Remember that time when I linked Czac to this site?

You mean the one that has this as its opening paragraph?

A top-of-the-line graphics card is easy to spot. It has lots of memory and a fast processor. Often, it's also more visually appealing than anything else that's intended to go inside a computer's case. Lots of high-performance video cards are illustrated or have decorative fans or heat sinks.

That was real helpful and gave me a lot of insight into how to spot a "top-of-the-line graphics card".

The Cynic wrote:

Damn, you are one lazy jerk.

Why, because your link sucked?

The Cynic wrote:

I linked you to rudimentary things because your apparent knowledge of the topic was just that lacking.

You understand that is why I posted the question here, no?  So you are in essence, reminding me of why I posted.  Thank you for that insight.

On a similar ignorant topic, I would like to post another question:  it was stated earlier that a normal PC card would only work in an intel Mac if there was a driver for it.  Is this different than the current state of affairs with the PowerMac G5?  Is the only thing preventing the use of an card in a PowerMac G5 the absence of a driver, or is there also a physical or other hardware reason why any old card will not work?

Czachorski wrote:

On a similar ignorant topic, I would like to post another question:  it was stated earlier that a normal PC card would only work in an intel Mac if there was a driver for it.  Is this different than the current state of affairs with the PowerMac G5?  Is the only thing preventing the use of an card in a PowerMac G5 the absence of a driver, or is there also a physical or other hardware reason why any old card will not work?

ROM code on the card makes em Mac or Windows.
the physical card, it's components and wiring are the same.
hardcore Mac users wanting a card that is PC only get's the ROM code for Mac, and "Flashes" the ROM using a PC. then put it in their Mac.

macnuke wrote:

hardcore Mac users wanting a card that is PC only get's the ROM code for Mac, and "Flashes" the ROM using a PC. then put it in their Mac.

Cool, so I'm a Hardcore Mac user!

The Cynic wrote:

All in all, I really fail to see why he didn't just try thinking before posting this trainwreck of a thread.

All of those sites really don’t answer his question now do they? Sure they will tell you all about the X1600 but they will not tell you if the trolls, as he sees them, will still insist that it is a smurfy card. I happen to think that it is a good card for everything but the highest end gaming but I am sure there will be those around here that say it is still the worst thing since The Clap. The biggest problem I have with the site you linked to was that it did not answer his question or even give him any usable information. I mean did you even read the article yourself? It was a joke at worst. Who picks video cards by how pretty they are? Do you? I hope not because you seem to know a little about the subject of video cards. What you seem to know little about, in this case at least, is how not to be insulting to someone who asked a question you could help them with. And really, who started being Mr. Presmptuous.

Hell, I'm interested in this issue, too.

The Mac was invented to utilize a GUI. So, what's with that particular aspect of the implementation that is so lagging?

I'm only a lowly 'consumer' and don't depend on bigiron for $, but my best guess is that marketshare deficit has allowed for fallow code from the likes of Adobe, and lack of any gaming code.

How many sw are written w/Altivec?

How many pro sw will Mac have that use both cores?

Who cares? Dual boot into XP!

<irony icon here>

Mr. McPhee wrote:

All of those sites really don’t answer his question now do they?

Sorry if the sites don't quantify all answers in the form of "pro" or "consumer".

Mr. McPhee wrote:

The biggest problem I have with the site you linked to was that it did not answer his question or even give him any usable information.

Pretty much.

Mr. McPhee wrote:

I mean did you even read the article yourself?

Not really.

Mr. McPhee wrote:

It was a joke at worst.

Yeah, I'm still chuckling about how serious everyone took that one to be.

Mr. McPhee wrote:

Who picks video cards by how pretty they are? Do you? I hope not because you seem to know a little about the subject of video cards

nV 7800GTX (eVGA)

Why'd I pick it, you ask?
Lifetime warranty.


---------------[read: burns out from overclocking, it's covered.]

The Cynic wrote:

Who said that link was "the best I come up with"?  Because I sure as hell didn't.
Congratulations, you all win the "Mr. Presumptuous" award!

Let's go back to the original question:

czac wrote:

Is this [the X1600] a standard video card, or is the usual "low end" consumer card that so many trolls troll about.

From czac's obvious obliviousness to basically anything relating to video cards, I decided to treat him as someone who didn't know what he was talking about.
So I post an ultra dumbed down article.  Flak back.
Apparently czac is both a genius and an underinformed jackass at the same time.


All in all, I really fail to see why he didn't just try thinking before posting this trainwreck of a thread.

It sounds to me that the troll-agitated tone that I took in the original post worked perfectly.

Hammer Time!

cheaper yes, but not cheap.

The Cynic wrote:

Stop.

Mr. McPhee wrote:

Hammer Time!

  I love you.

I think this link should answer everybody's questions [H]ard|OCP.  AnandTech is another good source, and there are a bunch more.  Why bother trying to understand pixel pipelines and vertex shaders when all that matters is the bottom line:  How good will my games look with x graphics card?