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I had my credit card out but thought better of it. I'm going to wait til they're actually shipping, listen for problems (briefly), and then buy over the border in tax free, sunny New Hampshire.

I wouldn't expect too many problems, actually. Don't be fooled, although the case doesn't look too different, it is quite different internally.

The AirPort Extreme antenna is now in the hinges of the display as the iSight takes up the space instead. The fans are gone from the closer left and right sides of the computer. The fans now circulate all of the air through the rear. Very nice graphics card setup as well.

I don't usually recommend buying 1st gen products, but I wouldn't have anything against buying this particular model. I'd expect a pretty good showing from this model.

I'd say the same for the iMac G5 just because I don't expect the same kind of overheating problems that there were before.

I'm betting on these models being fairly solid.

It is $2000, though. Worth the gamble? If you're gonna get AppleCare anyway (which I'd recommend) I'd go for it. Otherwise, it's a coin toss.

Last edited by Shadowless (2006-01-10 7:16 pm)

Now Now Now do it NOW

Imagine the envy.  Imagine the jealousy.  Imagine the Unbridled POWER... I mean .. Pro.. MacBook ... Power MacBook Pro....

I don't know.  You'll have to tell everyone that its a "MacBook".  The short "a" sound really kills the excitement.  It just doesn't flow.

Wait to see if there are any problems with the machines once they ship.  Plus I haven't heard much on battery life for the machine, the new brighter display just screams battery hog.

Yep. I was digging for that and couldn't find it either. At best, it's not worth bragging about. At worst, it's worth covering up.

I think they'll be a real solid machine, for a first release. First impressions are everything and they can't afford to put out a bad product with the first Intel chip. Could you imagine the backlash from the Apple community if either of these machines are duds?

I am personally waiting for the Mac Mini update but I will get a first generation Intel Mac Mini when they present themselves.

I would buy one happily, but I'm still a year from the end of my iBook's extended warranty. After that... those iMacs look pleasing to mine eyes...

From what I hear, the battery life ain't to hot.

ArsTechnica noted the estimated time in the battery menu of one of the demo machines was "3:03"

Moreover, the machine also ships with a higher wattage battery and power adaptor then the current powerbook.

So as for Steve's fancy bar graphics about performance per watt. Well... behold the magic of Steve's famous reality distortion field.

If you don't NEED a new laptop now, I would wait.

I think in June-ish there WILL be a bump to these (or perhaps a better model). Also, there isn't really any native software now, so it will be a while before you can really unleash the full potential of the laptop (as far as speed/graphics).

NoExit wrote:

do they have the books set up in the apple stores ??

They never setup anything in the store that you can't take home with you.

If they are out of stock, that is one thing, but a non-shipping product will never be there.

If they do arrive, they will go like this:

1.  Store Display (for all to play with)
2.  Window Display (for all to look at)
3.  Customer's hands.

The new Core Duo processor draw less power then Pent M, so you can draw your conclusion easily out there, question remain on how much power that brighter lcd and high end mobile video chip will draw.

As for 1st generation, this might be 1st generation Apple Intel, but their partner who build this laptop for Apple have yrsss of experience on wintel laptop, to them it is probably just same electronic with different package.

As far as being new design mb/chipset, it is my understand from wintel world that Intel have reference design(mb/chip)-design that their partner(in this case Apple) fellow and modify slightly, from chip location to method of cooling, it is no big deal, apple do not have to reinvent the wheel this time around hw-wise.

AAPL Shareholder wrote:

So as for Steve's fancy bar graphics about performance per watt. Well... behold the magic of Steve's famous reality distortion field.

Well, this is really easy to explain:

(made up numbers to follow)

G4 gets 2 power per 1 energy
G5 gets 1.5 power per 1 energy
Duo gets 5 power per 2 energy (2.5 per 1)

The Duo gets a better power/energy ratio, but still draws more energy.  That's one way those numbers would work.