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MysticCow wrote:

Found this one today and I'll direct you to the part where Steve seems to take a jab:

Loser: Adobe Photoshop was part of Jobs’ demo on how Rosetta can run PowerPC-based applications on Intel machines without hiccups—but it was a pretty half-hearted demo at best. Add to that a Jobs comment about how long it takes for Photoshop to load, and you get the sense that Adobe isn’t exactly one of his favorite developers at this particular moment.

Did Adobe just get bitch-slapped by Steve Jobs?

I don't think they were trying to bitch slap Adobe, if anything, it was the opposite. Adobe, for a lot of people, represent the "killer app" for the switch to Intel to be worth it.

I think Jobs was more nervous about exposing potentially crappy Rosetta performance in front of millions of people (when you count the news reports, and the keynote streams).

Apple better treat Adobe carefully, they have more to lose than Adobe does if it came to a fight.

True, but the majority of Adobe software is still sold to the windows hordes.

Adobe won't D/C its Mac apps until Apple one ups them, like what happened with Final Cut Pro and whatever that Adobe crapware was that did the same thing.

ConnertheCat wrote:

Pariah wrote:

lord funk wrote:

Every creative department I've ever seen uses Macs.  All of them.  I think Adobe understands where it's users are.

If Adobe discontinued the CS apps for the Mac creative pros would simply have to switch.
If Adobe dropped Apple there would be no choice for me but to get a PC and lots of people are in the same position.

Not entirely true.  You have to factor in a few things:

- The cost to ditch the macs and buy PCs would peeve quite a few people.
and
- Many Studios don't use the current version of Adobe apps anyhow.

It's not like Adobe drops CS2 for Mac tomorrow, and everyone's copy stops working.  Hell, where I was working last year, we used Photoshop 5.

Well, ya, but if Adobe were to say that they wont make an OSX86 version of CS2 and no Mac version of CS3 Adobe could single handedly kill the Mac in the creative area.
People would keep using there old stuff for awhile, maybe even years but Apple's revinue stream from that market would die almost instanainiously. Sure people would be pissed but what other application suite could replace Adobe's?
Thats what I ment.

adobe is one of apple's few big brothers.  Jobs knows that and wouldn't do anything to harm them.  In fact, I think Adobe was one of the first developers to join the universal basic bandwagon.

I don't understand your english (or lack there of)

Pariah wrote:

I have a copy of Photoshop 1.01


I just like to say that.

In use?

Adobe is a 900-pound gorilla. Until Apple has in-house replacements for the popular Adobe products, they will have to get along.

I remember when Steve showed off Altivec by running Photoshop on a fast x86 machine, then blowing it away with Photoshop on a G4. That wasn't so long ago.

I think Steve's recent comments were just a subtle nudge for Adobe to optimize their products for the Mac market.

Pariah wrote:

ConnertheCat wrote:

Pariah wrote:

If Adobe discontinued the CS apps for the Mac creative pros would simply have to switch.
If Adobe dropped Apple there would be no choice for me but to get a PC and lots of people are in the same position.

Not entirely true.  You have to factor in a few things:

- The cost to ditch the macs and buy PCs would peeve quite a few people.
and
- Many Studios don't use the current version of Adobe apps anyhow.

It's not like Adobe drops CS2 for Mac tomorrow, and everyone's copy stops working.  Hell, where I was working last year, we used Photoshop 5.

Well, ya, but if Adobe were to say that they wont make an OSX86 version of CS2 and no Mac version of CS3 Adobe could single handedly kill the Mac in the creative area.
People would keep using there old stuff for awhile, maybe even years but Apple's revinue stream from that market would die almost instanainiously. Sure people would be pissed but what other application suite could replace Adobe's?
Thats what I ment.

Really, a lot of this depends on what part of the creative industry you work in. As a designer I find that my Mac is fine for graphic design, and a lot of other graphic designers that I work with have Macs. But my use of the platform for graphic design has more to do with OS preference then an absolute need for Mac OS.

Moreover, as a designer I also find that MacOS has significant short comings should you dive into the world of product design, interactive design etc.

Personally, I can't wait to have a machine that can dual boot between Windows can MacOS . That would solve soooo many problems for me.

All Steve was trying to do is tell Adobe "hey! hurry app with the Mactel native apps!"

I really think he only said that because (truly) Photoshop does always take a second to load, even on a Quad G5, with 4 GB of RAM, and didn't want ppl to think that it was because Rosetta was slow.