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#1 2003-02-10 11:19 am
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Drug laws... out of control?
I was surfing the news this morning, and found this article in which a teenager received a 26-year sentence for selling marijuana. He made a total of four sales to warrant this arrest, and it was his first offence.
Later, I found this article, in which a man is convicted of two counts of rape after being caught sexually abusing his 2-month-old daughter. He was given an 11-year sentence.
Is it just me, or is our system broken?
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#2 2003-02-10 11:30 am
- The Great Prophet Omega
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
Definitely broken.
A drunk can murder someone with their car and walk away scotfree.
Shoulda just charged the kid with tax evasion.
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#3 2003-02-10 11:34 am
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
Laws concerning drug possession/distribution are nearly always more severe than laws concerning rape and non-capital murder.
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#4 2003-02-10 11:50 am
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
Absurd...makes me sick to hear crap like that...
Omega: You did mean comparatively *scott-free* didn't you?
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#5 2003-02-10 11:56 am
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
A fine and suspension of license. I'd call that scotfree.
My wife has a friend who's uncle killed 2 people drunk. Lost his license for 1 year, fined $10K and now recieves disability for his "condition".
Now that's smurfed up.
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#6 2003-02-10 12:15 pm
- relandr
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
Tuche'
I had not heard of that one ... all accounts I've heard there would be some prison time, perhaps just a few years.
Waaaay out of whack either way ... your example is totally scary
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#7 2003-02-10 1:55 pm
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
Now, if they could just completely do away with those pesky fourth amendment issues. . . that would make things easier and you would be much safer. 
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#8 2003-02-10 2:20 pm
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
Here's what I found at http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/
It's finally starting to hit the fan.
"The Office of Management and Budget's report about the Drug Enforcement Administration's drug war performance confirms long-held suspicions. The report said the DEA isn't doing its job. That may not qualify as news.
Also, the administration's budget for the agency remains pretty much the same, at $1.56 billion. That reflects less than a 1 percent increase and in part mirrors the Bush Administration's lack of confidence in the DEA.
The OMB report states that the agency "is unable to demonstrate progress in reducing the availability of illegal drugs in the United States." Americans at every economic level are still adversely affected by the easy availability of illegal drugs that are steadily more pure. Last year President Bush recognized that illegal drug use is still widespread among the nation's youth and that the war on drugs of late has "lost ground."
Just as I anticipated. People, in general, want to know where their money is being spent. There is definetely something to be said for accountability. Of course we could be here:
THAILAND SHOOTS TO KILL IN DRUGS WAR
THE empty coffins lined up outside the entrance to Pankgol police station in northern Thailand are a clear warning to local drug dealers of the fate that awaits them.
The grisly display speaks volumes about the brutal methods allegedly being adopted to deliver Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's pledge to rid Thailand of drug dealing in just three months.
The campaign seems to be bearing fruit, provided, that is, that success can be measured in terms of the number of corpses that have been piling up around the country over the past week. Already some 100 dealers are believed to have been killed.
The mounting death toll has prompted accusations from human rights groups that police death squads are carrying out state-sanctioned executions to fulfil Shinawatra's pledge.
According to human-rights groups, this 'war on drugs' has uncomfortable echoes of past abuses by Thailand's military rulers, who used extra-judicial killings to quell opposition.
Unbelieveable. I for one am appalled by this. And I also believe that this is the only way the "Drug Free" institutions throughout the world will ever be successful. Otherwise living people will always make their own decisions concerning consumption, despite tough laws. So killem' or make sensible laws.
"I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do".—D. Dale Gulledge
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#9 2003-02-11 7:48 am
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
Dell guy got busted sunday for pot. God forgive me, first thing I thought was-
Dude, you got a cell!
/me hangs head in shame and slinks off
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#10 2003-02-11 7:58 am
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
He was relieved on all charges as long as he behaves for the next year.
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#11 2003-02-11 10:04 am
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
Dell guy got busted sunday for pot. God forgive me, first thing I thought was-
Dude, you got a cell!
Hmmm...I've read that in a number of places.
It's more effective as:
Dude! You're gettin' a cell!
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#12 2003-02-11 1:31 pm
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Re: Drug laws... out of control?
I was surfing the news this morning, and found this article in which a teenager received a 26-year sentence for selling marijuana. He made a total of four sales to warrant this arrest, and it was his first offence.
I hope that this is nothing more than a showBoat thing for the onlooking community there and that he gets his probation in lieu of. Scary as hell nontheless that this could be even uttered by a man supposedly for justice.
wreck a life ...to prove a point...
Later, I found this article, in which a man is convicted of two counts of rape after being caught sexually abusing his 2-month-old daughter. He was given an 11-year sentence.
Is it just me, or is our system broken?
Actually, you'd better read that again ... he faces 11 yrs. [no conviction as yet] ...but all hopes of that seem slim 'cause his Daddy'll write a tear-jerk letter to the judge and perhaps he'll only get a *day* or so as in his prior armed robbery conviction [1989]
Nepotism - feh -
broken to say the LEAST!!! grossly misapplied and manipulated to serve the whims of the people in the seats of authority ... these judges are the criminals ... I'd like to administer some Thai~style justice on them !!!
Re: *Dell~Dude*:: ... while it is still illegal - this is the way it should be handled, with a slap and a warning
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