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#1 2006-01-14 5:36 pm
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I Love iWeb - Samples
Well, I Created this with iWeb in about 1 hour of effort. That includes learning the program. Of course, I already had the content ready to go, but the program is laid out to do exactly what I was looking for to create quick, simple web pages, so that I can focus on content.
This page is a dupe of my Wife's web site that I created for her in DreamWeaver. The dreamweaver site took me about 4-6 hours to do the dreamweaver tutorial and then several hours to create the pages. (I am a web pag maker newbie). I found dreamweaver to be pretty easy to use and powerful, but not as simple as I was looking for. I think that Apple nailed it with iWeb. I am going to love this program!
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#2 2006-01-14 6:12 pm
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Neato.
Yeah I've been playing with iWeb for about an hour or so now. Its so easy to use, and it looks great. I'm a web-designer, so i usually code everything myself i personally find it easier to code it myself because i get exactly what i want etc. But If you don't know HTML, i strongly suggest getting iLife '06, its great.
Btw you can use it without .Mac, I uploaded something i made in it for my Family website, it makes it easier for other people in my family to update it then instead of me always doing it, haha, they thought the form i made was too hard i guess? All you do is once you have your site done, go to File -> Publish to Folder. Then use your FTP of choice and upload the folder contents to your website.
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#3 2006-01-14 6:30 pm
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RL400, so if I have no desire to have any of the subscription features, I can just throw my stuff together, upload it to the website of my choice, and have it up for the world to see? If so, I may need to make myself an iLife06 purchase... Also, if I did want to do the subscriptions to photos or podcast, would I need to subscribe to .mac?
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#4 2006-01-14 6:51 pm
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It looks very nice. Your sample page is in another language though... What is that?
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#5 2006-01-14 6:53 pm
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Question:
If I prefer to edit the html source manually, is that an option?
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#6 2006-01-14 7:25 pm
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TheConfuzed1 wrote:
It looks very nice. Your sample page is in another language though... What is that?
I have not yet got to making the samples page, so I just framed in my standard stuff, and left the default stuff from the template for the content.
RL400, so if I have no desire to have any of the subscription features, I can just throw my stuff together, upload it to the website of my choice, and have it up for the world to see? If so, I may need to make myself an iLife06 purchase... Also, if I did want to do the subscriptions to photos or podcast, would I need to subscribe to .mac?
That is a big YES!!! You don't need .Mac to publish it.
Question:
If I prefer to edit the html source manually, is that an option?
I don't think so. Dreamweaver will do it, though.
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#7 2006-01-14 7:50 pm
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Mercury52 wrote:
RL400, so if I have no desire to have any of the subscription features, I can just throw my stuff together, upload it to the website of my choice, and have it up for the world to see? If so, I may need to make myself an iLife06 purchase... Also, if I did want to do the subscriptions to photos or podcast, would I need to subscribe to .mac?
Keep in mind though that Apple clearly does not want you to do this. There is no way, if you don't have .Mac, to tell the app that you don't have it.
Thus you get a nag-window every time you load iWeb... ala QT pre-7.
Also you cannot publish directly over FTP to your own server, AND the "Publish" and "Visit" buttons on the bottom of the window do NOT work if you choose not to use .Mac... the Publish button just brings up the nag-window (even if you previously chose to export to a folder), and the the visit button doesn't work at all (even though you had to enter the URL of your site when you exported to a folder).
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#8 2006-01-14 7:55 pm
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Mercury52 wrote:
RL400, so if I have no desire to have any of the subscription features, I can just throw my stuff together, upload it to the website of my choice, and have it up for the world to see? If so, I may need to make myself an iLife06 purchase... Also, if I did want to do the subscriptions to photos or podcast, would I need to subscribe to .mac?
yup, this is what iWeb tells me:
LOOK for motorcyclists. So often you will hear that a driver "never saw" the motorcyclist that they hit. As surprising as it may seem that you wouldn't see a vehicle, even if you looked right at it, a surprising study by Dr. Arien Mack shows that it is a real phenomenon.
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#9 2006-01-14 8:02 pm
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Czachorski wrote:
Question:
If I prefer to edit the html source manually, is that an option?I don't think so. Dreamweaver will do it, though.
Curious. However, I suppose that if you wanted to, you could view source, and then cut and paste, and then edit that. That wouldn't be the most elegant solution, but it would be quick and dirty.
I imagine that this is a feature that they would eventually support.
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#10 2006-01-14 8:05 pm
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Why does iWeb create images instead of the text?
Example - 
What's the deal?
Also, why does each div have its own styling information?
Can't it deal with style sheets?
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#11 2006-01-14 8:07 pm
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TheConfuzed1 wrote:
Question:
If I prefer to edit the html source manually, is that an option?
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#12 2006-01-14 8:18 pm
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jb wrote:
TheConfuzed1 wrote:
Question:
If I prefer to edit the html source manually, is that an option?
I use GVIM, myself.
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#13 2006-01-14 8:26 pm
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When using iWeb without .Mac you start up the program, it asks you to login to your .Mac, or become a member just Click close and it'll go to the program. You make your site, and instead of clicking Publish at the bottom, just click File -> Publish to Folder. Open your favorite FTP program and upload. Once its done it will tell you that 3 certain things work with .Mac only. Other than that it doesn't really ask you to join .Mac or login to your .Mac. I was thinking of getting .Mac anyways, maybe getting rid of my normal web host.
jb wrote:
Why does iWeb create images instead of the text?
Example - http://web.mac.com/czachorski/iWeb/aj-v … mage_2.png
What's the deal?
Also, why does each div have its own styling information?
Can't it deal with style sheets?
jb
thats odd, mine doesnt do that.
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LOOK for motorcyclists. So often you will hear that a driver "never saw" the motorcyclist that they hit. As surprising as it may seem that you wouldn't see a vehicle, even if you looked right at it, a surprising study by Dr. Arien Mack shows that it is a real phenomenon.
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#14 2006-01-14 8:58 pm
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I saw a demo page from someone else on MAF, and theirs did that too.
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#15 2006-01-14 9:09 pm
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It's also easy to add a hitcounter, there are a lot of free sites that offer that sort of service.
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#16 2006-01-16 1:38 am
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benightedbastard wrote:
It's also easy to add a hitcounter, there are a lot of free sites that offer that sort of service.
but .mac is cooler 
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#17 2006-01-16 1:58 am
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If you try to add html code in a text box, does it render the code, or does it display the code as if you had used the "code" tags?
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#18 2006-01-16 3:42 am
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I think the sites created by iWeb look great... but I haven't had a single one load decently. They take forever.
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#19 2006-01-16 7:01 am
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No offence, but I think it's pretty piss-poor that a brand-new program has to fall back on converting vast swathes of text into large images in order to create what appears to be a fairly simple web page. I haven't encountered that since MS Publisher 97 on the PC.
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#20 2006-01-16 7:03 am
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benightedbastard wrote:
It's also easy to add a hitcounter, there are a lot of free sites that offer that sort of service.
Or you could just be 1337 and code on yourself.
Yeah.
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#21 2006-01-16 8:51 am
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Does iWeb integrate well with standard web hosting (FTP) or is it limited to only .Mac?
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#22 2006-01-16 9:35 am
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TheConfuzed1 wrote:
If you try to add html code in a text box, does it render the code, or does it display the code as if you had used the "code" tags?
Since it converts all the text into graphics, it probably can't do either. Sometimes I think this company is run by retards.
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#23 2006-01-16 9:59 am
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Gatchaman wrote:
TheConfuzed1 wrote:
If you try to add html code in a text box, does it render the code, or does it display the code as if you had used the "code" tags?
Since it converts all the text into graphics, it probably can't do either. Sometimes I think this company is run by retards.
I just noticed that. How retarded.
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#24 2006-01-16 11:18 am
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On the one hand, I think it's great to have an option like this.
On the other hand, I've been coding for nearly 10 years and seeing that code tells me that I may not be able to go in and tweak things myself.
Fortunately, I'm not into higher-end designs for my stuff.
If I knew what I was doing, I wouldn't be here.
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#25 2006-01-16 12:36 pm
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Text as images sucks and think of this:
Say I want to keep your info handy to call you latter, I can't copy and past your contact info into a document to save, or to use in an email.
I would have to take out a pen and paper and manually copy from the picture of your contact info.
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