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#1 2003-02-10 4:22 pm

pastor macman
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A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

I listen to Sean Hannity now and again and I heard something today caught my attention. Hannity's call screener is a liberal gal nicknamed flipper (might be her real name i don't really know). He bought her a live lobster to cook for Christmas. He knows that she is vegitarian but got it for her and her husband. Being the liberal that she is, she decided to set it free instead of cook it and eat it.

Well... she set it free alright. She forgot to take off the rubberbands on it's claws and she released it into a fresh water pond. Do you realize how horribly this lobster died? I know that people boil lobsters live all the time but this is a tree huggin, animal kissin liberal who brutally killed this lobster. How come there's no animal rights activists coming after her? How can she live with herself? She says it was an accident and that she was distracted because she just had a baby and wasn't thinking straight. Does that make it any better? The lobster still died horribly.

Had someone purposefully thrown a bound up lobster into a freshwater pond, there would've been an outrage by animal rights activists demanding criminal charges. But because a fellow liberal does the same damage on accident, no on says a thing.

What do you say?


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#2 2003-02-10 4:25 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

I say she was an ignorant and did something stupid, and anybody who attacks her for trying to do something good is a real sleazebag.


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#3 2003-02-10 4:26 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Who would spend $20 on a lobster just to throw it into a pond?


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#4 2003-02-10 4:40 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Had someone purposefully thrown a bound up lobster into a freshwater pond, there would've been an outrage by animal rights activists demanding criminal charges. But because a fellow liberal does the same damage on accident, no on says a thing.

What?

First of all, I can't imagine this would ever be a huge deal, to anyone.

Secondly...can you not recognize the profound difference between accidental cruelty (when someone was attempting to act in good faith) and perpetrating purposeful cruelty upon something?  Accidental death versus murder?  Hello?

That's quite a stretch, sir.


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#5 2003-02-10 4:45 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Tell that to PETA


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#6 2003-02-10 4:51 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Tell that to PETA

What does PETA have to do with "liberals?"  They certainly don't give a smurf what you believe, if you're wearing a fur coat they're gonna be pissed.

I'm still not understanding the point here.


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#7 2003-02-10 4:58 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Of all the pointless, idiotic, Liberal bashing threads I've ever seen at MAF, this one is the worst. At least Comp USA usually puts some sick, twisted humor into his diatribes. Thanks for wasting 20 seconds of my life pastor macman.

Oh, and by the way, anytime you want to debate real issues (that affect more than one person) instead of starting a thread just to tell us that you don't like Liberals, let me know.


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#8 2003-02-10 5:01 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

If you can find an actual example of a "tree huggin, animal kissin liberal" attacking someone for simply making a mistake in animal husbandry, post it.  Otherwise, shut the smurf up.


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#9 2003-02-10 5:01 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

You forgot to stipulate in the bashing thread title that she was female. And you didn't mention her race, height, weight and marital status. You didn't mention her place of birth or residence, so you missed out on slamming East Coaters or West Coasters or Californians or Texans, etc.. What's wrong with you? You could have slammed a whole BUNCH of groups all in one go.

Married Female Asian Nut just brutalized an animal.
Harvard University gratuate nut who just brutalized an animal.
Tall Skinny Christian nut who just brutalized an animal.

Tall Skinny Christian Married Female Asian Harvard University gratuate nut who just brutalized an animal.

Your assumption that she's liberal is irrelevant to the story. Except it's just a nice little group bash. Bigot.


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#10 2003-02-10 5:02 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

eh she was trying to do something good, but is apparently a dumb bint...am i the only one to see the parallel between this story and fighting a war against a country to 'help the citizens'...good job, half of them just got carpet bombed to tiny chunks

anyhow, i love a good lobster.

someone i know loves steak but refuses to eat veal...i called jokingly called her a 'cow ageist'

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#11 2003-02-10 5:25 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Wow, Flipper made a mistake.  Of course, it is one of the dumbest mistakes I've ever heard of.  Come on, if you're going to go to effort of releasing the lobster at least do it right.

But the really annoying thing is that Sean Hannity gave her the lobster in the first place.  I am a vegetarian and people give me meat all the time as a joke.  Fine, I just give it to someone else or throw it away (obviously, I am not militant).  But giving a vegetarian a LIVE ANIMAL!?!  Sean knew that her convicitons were such that she couldn't kill the animal and that she would try to release it.  Why make someone go to the effort of caring for an animal? 

I like Sean Hannity, but this was stupid and mean.


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#12 2003-02-10 6:03 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

So far so good.

BTW Hannity gave the lobster to her and her husband. I forgot to mention that her husband is not a vegitarian.


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#13 2003-02-10 6:24 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

First off, lobster is one of the more, umm.. disturbing things you can handle if you're a vegan for more than strict health reasons. Unless you're buying it prepackaged and cooked, you're dealing with putting a live and kicking animal to death right in your own kitchen.

So what if her husband is not vegan? Why not just give them a coupon for a nice restaurant where they can both eat what they prefer, or a box of frozen steaks or even a cooked lobster if you MUST give them something you KNOW she'll never touch? Why give them a live lobster? That's pointedly assinine and plain ol' mean spirited to do to your own co-worker.

The idiot in this story is Hannity.

And PM still hasn't explained why he chose to slam her for being liberal. Would she have magically remembered to remove the bands if she voted Republican? What does political views have to do with that? Nothing. Other than just an opportunity to slam.


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#14 2003-02-10 8:11 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

simply making a mistake in animal husbandry, post it. 

Here is a fine example of poor animal husbandry.
The people we got her from deserved a good flogging.

*not attacking you, just showing a point

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#15 2003-02-10 8:25 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

lobsters?
<blech>

big ocean cockroaches is all they are


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#16 2003-02-10 8:43 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Mars_Attacks, based on that picture I would presume that the cockatoo is diseased. I've seen that or a similar condition before. From my understanding it's a disease similar to aids. Have you taken it to a avian veterinarian? Is it around other birds? Where is its anklet?


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#17 2003-02-10 8:45 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

I looked at Hannity's web site, and frankly, I think the whole thing is an act. It's about as vaild as "reality" TV.


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#18 2003-02-10 10:17 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

So far so good.

BTW Hannity gave the lobster to her and her husband. I forgot to mention that her husband is not a vegitarian.

That's completely irrelevant. Her morals are more important than her husband's desire to eat lobster.

I would assume that given your position as a pastor that you wouldn't want to force anyone to do something that was against their morals.


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#19 2003-02-10 10:24 pm

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Mars is nearly a bird vet himself. VERY good with the little buggers

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#20 2003-02-11 2:27 am

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

So far so good.

BTW Hannity gave the lobster to her and her husband. I forgot to mention that her husband is not a vegitarian.

That's completely irrelevant. Her morals are more important than her husband's desire to eat lobster.

I would assume that given your position as a pastor that you wouldn't want to force anyone to do something that was against their morals.

matt, matt. You haven't spent much time around clergy, have you?

He wouldn't want to force someone to do sometihng that was against HIS morals. The other person's morals, being wrong, are irrelevant.


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#21 2003-02-11 4:56 am

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Mars_Attacks, based on that picture I would presume that the cockatoo is diseased. I've seen that or a similar condition before. From my understanding it's a disease similar to aids. Have you taken it to a avian veterinarian? Is it around other birds? Where is its anklet?

Your understanding is likely askew. That's feather plucking and typically comes about from a bird being neglected. Say one that spends all it's time in a cage with no interaction with it's flock, in this case the family that had it. It's a manifestation of stress, a psychological problem, most times curable by changing the bird's environmental conditions, giving it the interaction it needs as a very social animal, and improving it's likely crappy diet of cheap seed mix, adding toys, etc..

If it were a disease, it would equally affect the bird's head and wings. As you can see, the wings are plucked at the edges where the feathers are small, but the larger, less easy and therefore more painfull to remove flight feathers are still there. The head feathers are intact since the bird cannot reach that area with it's beak. It may take a year, after the bird is in a better situation for the feathers to grow back, assuming this hasn't turned into a permanent habit. A few birds never stop, but most respond to proper treatment.


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#22 2003-02-11 5:06 am

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Yeah, it looks like self-plucking via neglect to me. Odds on it was in a dingy little cage with no company nor stimulation. That close, Mars?

Being the liberal that she is, she decided to set it free instead of cook it and eat it.

Aaah. Liberals are people who don't eat crustacea.

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#23 2003-02-11 5:16 am

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.


Here is a fine example of poor animal husbandry.
The people we got her from deserved a good flogging.

Shoot! I forgot to ask the more important question:
Was the previous owner liberal, or conservative?

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#24 2003-02-11 5:17 am

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.

Being the liberal that she is, she decided to set it free instead of cook it and eat it.

Aaah. Liberals are people who don't eat crustacea.

Which leads one to presume that therefore there are no vegan conservatives, all Republicans are die-hard meat eaters and wouldn't be caught dead volunteering in an animal rescue shelter and you'll never, EVER see a liberal in a MacDonalds or eating a turkey dinner. Gotta love those handy blanket generalizations, they make thinking oh so much easier!


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#25 2003-02-11 5:20 am

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Re: A liberal nut who just brutalized an animal.


Here is a fine example of poor animal husbandry.
The people we got her from deserved a good flogging.

Shoot! I forgot to ask the more important question:
Was the previous owner liberal, or conservative?

Ooo! That's a toughy! If they were liberal, they would have let it go free. If they were conservative, they would have simply eaten it. Hmmm... Wonder which it will turn out to be.


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