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#26 2006-02-08 12:07 am

TheOipedOne
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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

yup


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#27 2006-02-08 12:16 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

I believe in god, but god doesn't believe in me.


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#28 2006-02-08 12:39 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

I believe that western religion developed they way that knobtwirler said, if people don't understand something, they try to fill in the gaps. It gives them a purpose in life.
So no, I don;t believe in a god.
If I did, it wouldn't be in the same way that everyone else does. I don't tend to worship seemingly omnipotent beings that just try to force themselves on me. In my book, thats called a tyrant.
I believe in Jesus though. Is that weird?

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#29 2006-02-08 12:47 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

Jesus was/is smurfing awesome.


Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.

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#30 2006-02-08 1:01 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

Speaking of Jesus, I think the second coming of christ will be caused by the cloning of the DNA on the shroud of turin.


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#31 2006-02-08 1:06 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

I believe in God.

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#32 2006-02-08 1:44 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

MacMonkey wrote:

Speaking of Jesus, I think the second coming of christ will be caused by the cloning of the DNA on the shroud of turin.

Shroud of Turin is a farce.


Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.

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#33 2006-02-08 1:47 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

Phydeaux wrote:

MacMonkey wrote:

Speaking of Jesus, I think the second coming of christ will be caused by the cloning of the DNA on the shroud of turin.

Shroud of Turin is a farce.

Which can be proven as soon as we clone whatever is on that thing.

CLONE EVERYTHING NOW!! CLONE ME! CLONE ARNOLD! CLONE PHY!

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#34 2006-02-08 2:21 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

MacMonkey wrote:

Phydeaux wrote:

MacMonkey wrote:

Speaking of Jesus, I think the second coming of christ will be caused by the cloning of the DNA on the shroud of turin.

Shroud of Turin is a farce.

Which can be proven as soon as we clone whatever is on that thing.

CLONE EVERYTHING NOW!! CLONE ME! CLONE ARNOLD! CLONE PHY!

*sudden thought*
Could they get self-cloning clones if they create 2 groups of clones, one with all of the left chromosomes, one with all of the right chromosomes (the and make sure the ones with 2 Y chromosomes get one replaced with an X chromosome) and have them reproduce? Of course, you would also get "clones" that are exactly the same, but opposite sex. (only work with males, though tongue)


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#35 2006-02-08 2:27 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

akb825 wrote:

MacMonkey wrote:

Phydeaux wrote:


Shroud of Turin is a farce.

Which can be proven as soon as we clone whatever is on that thing.

CLONE EVERYTHING NOW!! CLONE ME! CLONE ARNOLD! CLONE PHY!

*sudden thought*
Could they get self-cloning clones if they create 2 groups of clones, one with all of the left chromosomes, one with all of the right chromosomes (the and make sure the ones with 2 Y chromosomes get one replaced with an X chromosome) and have them reproduce? Of course, you would also get "clones" that are exactly the same, but opposite sex. (only work with males, though tongue)

What I would do is just make a chromosome-inverted clone of myself. big_smile


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#36 2006-02-08 2:37 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

MacMonkey wrote:

akb825 wrote:

MacMonkey wrote:

Which can be proven as soon as we clone whatever is on that thing.

CLONE EVERYTHING NOW!! CLONE ME! CLONE ARNOLD! CLONE PHY!

*sudden thought*
Could they get self-cloning clones if they create 2 groups of clones, one with all of the left chromosomes, one with all of the right chromosomes (the and make sure the ones with 2 Y chromosomes get one replaced with an X chromosome) and have them reproduce? Of course, you would also get "clones" that are exactly the same, but opposite sex. (only work with males, though tongue)

What I would do is just make a chromosome-inverted clone of myself. big_smile

hubba It certainly cuts the time out of finding "the one." (since you definitely have a lot in common!)


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#37 2006-02-08 2:54 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

knobtwirler wrote:

Nope. Since you asked, my present state of awareness has been telling me that the notion of a God has come from early development stages of man, where he felt overpowered by unexplainable natural forces. Eventually people realized they could propagate this notion of ultimate fear by creating religion to control masses of people for various reasons, one of them being to advance civilization as a whole. Now that we have so many different religions that all seem similar in general construct, and this construct was man's own construct, masses of people all over the world still blindly follow their respective born-into religions and actually fight over them, and won't let go because it all seems to make so much sense. The most telling notion of there being no God is that these things are left to go on without God's noticeable intervention, and most of what religious people do is not what they preach nor what this so called God would have intended. So no.

Ditto.
Yeah, I know I skipped half of the topic.
He said what was on my mind when I read the question.


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#38 2006-02-08 2:57 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

MacMonkey wrote:

akb825 wrote:

MacMonkey wrote:


Which can be proven as soon as we clone whatever is on that thing.

CLONE EVERYTHING NOW!! CLONE ME! CLONE ARNOLD! CLONE PHY!

*sudden thought*
Could they get self-cloning clones if they create 2 groups of clones, one with all of the left chromosomes, one with all of the right chromosomes (the and make sure the ones with 2 Y chromosomes get one replaced with an X chromosome) and have them reproduce? Of course, you would also get "clones" that are exactly the same, but opposite sex. (only work with males, though tongue)

What I would do is just make a chromosome-inverted clone of myself. big_smile

Hehe, "go f**k yourself" wink


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#39 2006-02-08 3:10 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

On a more serious note, imagine how much we'd learn about the difference between the sexes if we had 2 clones, where the only difference was one of them had the Y chromosome swapped with an X chromosome.


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#40 2006-02-08 3:20 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

akb825 wrote:

[...] nobody [...] tried to prove that there is or is not any God.

Good. That's not provable, see.

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#41 2006-02-08 4:02 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

MacMonkey wrote:

Speaking of Jesus, I think the second coming of christ will be caused by the cloning of the DNA on the shroud of turin.

[Trek geek]Well, it worked with Kahless(SP?)[/Trek geek]

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#42 2006-02-08 6:19 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

Lew wrote:

MacMonkey wrote:

Speaking of Jesus, I think the second coming of christ will be caused by the cloning of the DNA on the shroud of turin.

[Trek geek]Well, it worked with Kahless(SP?)[/Trek geek]

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#43 2006-02-08 11:00 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

Phydeaux wrote:

I, Susej, must convince you to be so inclined to believe in Dog.

Free the inner-fido. BELIEVE IN DOG.

Dog Is My Co-Pilot


Really though. I don't believe in one set god. I don't think there is one man sitting in the sky watching all of us. Come on, that's just crazy. I do believe in higher powers, divine intervention, angels, evil spirits, and other cosmic forces that may be associated with religion.


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#44 2006-02-08 11:15 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

I like the roman/greek gods, myself.
they are just cooler than the traditional stuff.

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#45 2006-02-08 11:36 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

They are cool.


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#46 2006-02-08 11:38 am

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

I believe in a higher power, but I don't believe in organized religion. I used to rail against people who threw themselves blindly into their faith, but having lost my mother earlier this year, I've come to realize that for some people it brings comfort in times of stress and sadness, so it can't be all bad.

That being said, I really hate the churchies that my mom used to hang out with before she passed away. Hardly any of them visited her when she was in the hospital for 9 months, but they came in droves once her suffering was over, organizing novenas and trying to horn in on the funeral arrangements -- they were beside themselves when they found out that a) she was being cremated, and b) there would be no gathering at the crematorium after the funeral mass. It was all a big circus for them, trying to outdo who loved her more when they completely ignored her while she was alive. Hypocrites.

Anyhoo, carry on.


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#47 2006-02-08 12:16 pm

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

I believe in the triune God.


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#48 2006-02-08 12:41 pm

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

I believe in God.  He has helped me through some really tough times in my life.  It is when I felt a presence and no I don't believe it is a mental state, or a coincidence.

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#49 2006-02-08 1:50 pm

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

I believe that no human could possibly know whether or not a creator exists nor what the nature of that creator is, if it exists.


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#50 2006-02-08 2:03 pm

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Re: Anyone here believe in God?

soulcrusher wrote:

well, I believe in myself.

I believe in you, too, Soulcrusher.  ::hug:: cry


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