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kb5zhh wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

Well, the first few pages had good stuff and I kept reading hoping that it would get better but it's only getting weird and paranoid.

The fark thread was much better.

Anyway, unless Cheney has major liver issues, alcohol consumed at lunch would have no impact on him at 5:00.

Well, it's kind of hard for me to have sympathy for Cheney as far as the alcohol goes, considering the role he's played in creating our modern "OMG, let's not drink if we're gonna fish! Let's not smoke any pot if our band has to play tonight!" society, but still ... smurf happens. Get over it.

Tallgeese wrote:

elaborate, please

When I was a kid (in the 70's) it was perfectly cool to drink like a fish and drive all over southern Iowa. If there weren't any good-looking girls at the bar in Bloomfield you just chugged a couple beers and drove to Ottumwa. You drove 90 mph up Hwy. 63 because there was always a chance that some really good-looking girl would walk in the bar while you were on the highway and you can't have that. She might not want to wait 20 minutes while you drove the smurfing speed limit to get laid.

Well, in the last 30 years, attitudes have certainly changed a lot and I wouldn't dare drive a car without cruise control these days. Since Dick Cheney has been involved in the government all that time and even longer, persecuting us beer drinkers as much as he could, I find it hard to be sympathetic to his cause right now. "One at lunch," give me a break, Dick. So if his anti-alcohol-anti-marijuana-anti-catching-a-buzz-anywhere-just-to-have-a-good-time attitude bites him in the ass in the end I'm not gonna cry about it.

Watauga_River wrote:

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** spews vanilla milkshake **

How suprising.

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (Reuters) - Local police cleared Vice President Dick Cheney of any wrongdoing in his weekend hunting mishap and closed the case on Thursday, saying no charges would be filed.

Font/DA Mover wrote:

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" Bush said the vice president's explanation was ``strong and powerful.'' " 
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Does the president have access to a thesaurus? I mean, seriously: weren't there better words to describe the veep's explanation?

dvpierce wrote:

[ ...A hunting accident shouldn't be an issue.
....This is going to be fun to watch.

The first sentence there is absolutely true. It shouldn't be an issue.

So, why did the initial responders get turned away at the gate? Why did VP wait till next morning to talk? Why not directly call Bush to inform? Why use Armstong to give story to local paper? Why not go w/victim to hospital? Why no breathalyzer? If he's melting down, why was he able to sit down to a full meal JUST AFTER SHOOTING AN ELDERLY MAN IN FACE AND CHEST? Why wait 5 days to use Fox in an edited friendly venue? These are all VP actions/decisions. I wish all those questions didn't need asking. Then, a hunting accident wouldn't be an issue.

Me or you in Mich/Minn under same circumstances would wait in jail till Monday AM for court appearance. Hell, we might have already been sentenced.

Which brings me to the second sentence. There won't be anything to watch, so there will be no 'fun'. Local law enforcement has already closed the case.

Unless the vic decides otherwise.

I think the Sheriff's documentation has a call coming in 'around' 5:30pm. Go figure. Everybody's playing 3-card monte.

I had to IMDB 'Absolute Power'....I remember the broad outline. Can you be specific?

Last edited by Font/DA Mover (2006-02-16 10:29 pm)

I read that cheney was so upset the day of the shooting he couldn't even make it to the hospital to visit his "friend" the victem.
It was all he could do to get himself to the roast beef banquet that night.

Freakout Jackson wrote:

I read that cheney was so upset the day of the shooting he couldn't even make it to the hospital to visit his "friend" the victem.
It was all he could do to get himself to the roast beef banquet that night.

...free beer and beef for the Veep

USA Today

Cheney gets a standing ovation from the Wyoming legislature.

I can't understand why some people are so upset that he didn't go to the hospital. It was pretty clear apparently from the beginning that that they were basically just superficial wounds, his life wasn't threatened.

Anywhere the VP and President shows up turns into a circus. The attention would not be on the patients in the ER, but on making sure that that the area was secure and safe. Plus I imagine that it makes it difficult for the hospital staff to do their jobs. It just makes more sense for them to wait back at the house.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/ … index.html

but the 14-hour period that passed between the time Dick Cheney shot Harry Whittington and the time Katharine Armstrong started calling the Corpus-Christi Caller-Times  .......


So what was Cheney doing during the 14 mystery hours? Was he just focusing, as Scott McClellan suggested, on getting medical care for his fallen friend? Was he working to get his spin straight? Or was he waiting to get the smell of beer off his breath and traces of alcohol out of his system?


Alan Dershowitz ... criminal defense lawyer: "It is fairly common for people involved in alcohol-related accidents to delay reporting them until the alcohol has left the body," he says. "There is no hard evidence that this is what happened here, but we are entitled to a better explanation. We should be told whether Vice President Cheney's victim had alcohol in his system when he was taken to the hospital. Was there any alcohol at or near the hunting area? Were any in the hunting party carrying flasks (which is apparently common among hunters)? What was Cheney doing just before he went hunting?"

...

[Salon with some info from] CNN : After Whittington was shipped off to the hospital Saturday night, Armstrong says, the vice president "fixed himself a cocktail back at the house."

... If you want to make it impossible to prove that your blood-alcohol level was elevated before shooting somebody, make sure a witness sees you pouring a stiff drink for yourself afterward.

Last edited by Tetrachloride (2006-02-21 10:10 am)

If you play with Dick in the bush, eventually you're going to get it in the face.