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#51 2006-02-13 3:43 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

KHannon wrote:

This just puts him in company with another controversial figure as Vice President- Aaron Burr.  Wait, Sorry:  Awwwran Buuh!

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#52 2006-02-13 4:12 pm

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It seems that Bush wasn't told of the Cheney incident because the White House didn't know.   Reporters chop McClellan into kindling.    http://rawstory.com/news/2005/White_Hou … _0213.html

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#53 2006-02-13 4:16 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Can we start calling the VP 'Ol' Blood n Guts'?


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#54 2006-02-13 4:33 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Y'all act like ya ain't never shot a buddy whens you was out hunting.
City people, psh.


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#55 2006-02-13 4:44 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

He was probably blinded by the thousands of quail flying around everywhere.


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#56 2006-02-13 5:28 pm

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CBS reports that the local sheriff was barred from talking to Cheney.  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/ … 9344.shtml

CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer reports Texas authorities are complaining that the Secret Service barred them from speaking to Cheney after the incident. Kenedy County Texas Sheriffs Lt. Juan Guzman said deputies first learned of the shooting when an ambulance was called.

Obstruction of justice ?

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#57 2006-02-13 5:54 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Tetrachloride wrote:

CBS reports that the local sheriff was barred from talking to Cheney.  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/ … 9344.shtml

CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer reports Texas authorities are complaining that the Secret Service barred them from speaking to Cheney after the incident. Kenedy County Texas Sheriffs Lt. Juan Guzman said deputies first learned of the shooting when an ambulance was called.

Obstruction of justice ?

Eh, unless the guy dies or is paralyzed or something, this is nothing more than great source for the late night comedians.

[edit typo]

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#58 2006-02-13 6:08 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

So Cheney shoot someone and the ranch owner is the one to make the public announcement.   White House stooge McClellan says that Cheney and the ranch owner agreed that the ranch owner would make the announcement.

I contend this is a legal move so that Cheney or his goons didn't have to have their words thrown back at them.

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#59 2006-02-13 6:53 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Tetrachloride wrote:

CBS reports that the local sheriff was barred from talking to Cheney.  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/ … 9344.shtml

CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer reports Texas authorities are complaining that the Secret Service barred them from speaking to Cheney after the incident. Kenedy County Texas Sheriffs Lt. Juan Guzman said deputies first learned of the shooting when an ambulance was called.

Obstruction of justice ?

Enough to impeach Vice President Dick if he gave the order...

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#60 2006-02-13 7:30 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

hmm
You know, I'm gonna go with

JakeTheTall wrote:

Eh, unless the guy dies or is paralyzed or something, this is nothing more than great source for the late night comedians.

I mean, Cheney's an evil robot and everything but some of y'all are going way too far with this. Accidents happen. Nobody got killed. No huge conspiracies here or impeachable offenses. Really, some people here are going as nuts as Newt and Co. did with Clinton.


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#61 2006-02-13 7:38 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Tallgeese wrote:

hmm
You know, I'm gonna go with

JakeTheTall wrote:

Eh, unless the guy dies or is paralyzed or something, this is nothing more than great source for the late night comedians.

I mean, Cheney's an evil robot and everything but some of y'all are going way too far with this. Accidents happen. Nobody got killed. No huge conspiracies here or impeachable offenses. Really, some people here are going as nuts as Newt and Co. did with Clinton.

Is reckless discharge of a weapon a crime?


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#62 2006-02-13 7:42 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

kb5zhh wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

hmm
You know, I'm gonna go with

JakeTheTall wrote:

Eh, unless the guy dies or is paralyzed or something, this is nothing more than great source for the late night comedians.

I mean, Cheney's an evil robot and everything but some of y'all are going way too far with this. Accidents happen. Nobody got killed. No huge conspiracies here or impeachable offenses. Really, some people here are going as nuts as Newt and Co. did with Clinton.

Is reckless discharge of a weapon a crime?

All depends on the situation.
Something some here aren't considering is it may in fact be the other guys "fault" for not maintaining his proper position and wandering into Cheneys agreed upon field of fire.
Accidents just plain happen.


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#63 2006-02-13 7:55 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Farmerkev wrote:

kb5zhh wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

hmm
You know, I'm gonna go with


I mean, Cheney's an evil robot and everything but some of y'all are going way too far with this. Accidents happen. Nobody got killed. No huge conspiracies here or impeachable offenses. Really, some people here are going as nuts as Newt and Co. did with Clinton.

Is reckless discharge of a weapon a crime?

All depends on the situation.
Something some here aren't considering is it may in fact be the other guys "fault" for not maintaining his proper position and wandering into Cheneys agreed upon field of fire.
Accidents just plain happen.

I tend to follow the idea that whoever plus the trigger is the one responsible for where the shot goes.  And from the reports that I've read, it sounds like cheney spun around ( ie outside of what would be the standard field of fire).  But really my conclusion is that cheney needs to stop or at least change his hunting habits.


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#64 2006-02-13 8:15 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Again, how are other hunting "accidents" treated in texass?


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#65 2006-02-13 8:20 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

kb5zhh wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

hmm
You know, I'm gonna go with

JakeTheTall wrote:

Eh, unless the guy dies or is paralyzed or something, this is nothing more than great source for the late night comedians.

I mean, Cheney's an evil robot and everything but some of y'all are going way too far with this. Accidents happen. Nobody got killed. No huge conspiracies here or impeachable offenses. Really, some people here are going as nuts as Newt and Co. did with Clinton.

Is reckless discharge of a weapon a crime?

Oh come on.
It wasn't his fault - he had faulty intelligence.

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#66 2006-02-13 8:20 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Tetrachloride wrote:

So Cheney shoot someone and the ranch owner is the one to make the public announcement.   White House stooge McClellan says that Cheney and the ranch owner agreed that the ranch owner would make the announcement.

I contend this is a legal move so that Cheney or his goons didn't have to have their words thrown back at them.

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#67 2006-02-13 8:21 pm

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Ronnie Earls is glad he didn't go!


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#68 2006-02-13 8:25 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Tetrachloride wrote:

So Cheney shoot someone and the ranch owner is the one to make the public announcement.   White House stooge McClellan says that Cheney and the ranch owner agreed that the ranch owner would make the announcement.

I contend this is a legal move so that Cheney or his goons didn't have to have their words thrown back at them.

ENTER KARL ROVE.  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/13/polit … heney.html 

The White House said today that President Bush was informed Saturday evening that Vice President Dick Cheney had shot a fellow hunter in South Texas earlier in the day, although the news was not disclosed publicly until Sunday afternoon.

The shooting, which occurred at about 6:30 p.m. Eastern time, left a prominent Austin lawyer and Republican campaign supporter, Harry Whittington, wounded by shotgun pellets in the neck, shoulder and chest.

"Chief of Staff Andy Card called the president around 7:30 p.m. to inform him that there was a hunting accident," a statement released today by the White House said. "He did not know the vice president was involved at that time. Subsequent to the call, Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove spoke with Mrs. Armstrong. He then called the president shortly before 8 p.m. to update him and let him know the vice president had accidentally shot Mr. Whittington."

In a contentious news briefing with White House reporters earlier about a subject that captivated the capital today, Scott McClellan, the president's spokesman, said he himself did not learn until about 6 a.m. on Sunday that it was Mr. Cheney who had shot Mr. Whittington, 78, when the two were on a weekend quail hunting trip along with several others at the Armstrong Ranch.

So, Andy Card didn't know either when the White House was informed.  Then Karl Rove spoke with Mrs. Armstrong and together they kept the information quiet until Sunday.

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#69 2006-02-13 8:27 pm

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Austin newspaper

Whittington hit by as many as 200 pellets.

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#70 2006-02-13 8:38 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Tallgeese wrote:

I mean, Cheney's an evil robot and everything but some of y'all are going way too far with this. Accidents happen. Nobody got killed. No huge conspiracies here or impeachable offenses. Really, some people here are going as nuts as Newt and Co. did with Clinton.

I don't believe you. I'm pretty sure this is part of a large conspiracy. Something to do with Halliburton and Rove and the War Oil Machine.

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#71 2006-02-13 8:39 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

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Again, how are other hunting "accidents" treated in texass?

If it's like around here, depends on the severity of the wound.
Well that and if you intended to shoot him
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#72 2006-02-13 8:49 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Farmerkev wrote:

Freakout Jackson wrote:

Again, how are other hunting "accidents" treated in texass?

If it's like around here, depends on the severity of the wound.
Well that and if you intended to shoot him
wink

heh
same here
been shot.. shot others...
shot happens

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#73 2006-02-13 9:11 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

macnuke wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

Freakout Jackson wrote:

Again, how are other hunting "accidents" treated in texass?

If it's like around here, depends on the severity of the wound.
Well that and if you intended to shoot him
wink

heh
same here
been shot.. shot others...
shot happens

On the news the Sheriff  said something to the affect that it wasn't a big deal because it happens all the time...confused  lol

Dick broke the first rule of Fight Club er Hunt Club.


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#74 2006-02-13 9:50 pm

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White House blames Whittington for  being in the wrong place.  Sounds like whining and another broken rule of FHunt Club.

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#75 2006-02-13 9:50 pm

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Re: VP Dick Cheney personally shoots a man.

Deadmanwalking wrote:

On the news the Sheriff  said something to the affect that it wasn't a big deal because it happens all the time...confused  lol

actually, it does happen all the time. not just in TX either.

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