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#1 2006-02-16 6:26 am
- wpholmes
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First Mac Trojan?
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/forums/index. … pic=102379
It seems to not be so much a virus as an executable file that pretends to be a JPEG and does some shady stuff.
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#2 2006-02-16 7:31 am
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
It may not be a virus in the true sense of the word, but it should serve as a warning of potential things to come.
Time to stop taking security for granted. 
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#3 2006-02-16 8:04 am
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
I don't really see it as a problem other than social engineering as he put it. For instance...if I went to open what I thought was a JPEG file and a window popped up asking for my admin password, I would know something was smurfed up and close it and delete it.
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#4 2006-02-16 8:20 am
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
And you're not running as an admin user.
Right?
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#5 2006-02-16 8:23 am
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
Nope. There was that 'Office 2004 full trial' (or similar) that was a cunningly disguised 200k AppleScript that just deleted idiot's home folders.
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#6 2006-02-16 8:24 am
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
An Applescript needs to be 200k to run rm -rf ~/ ?
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#7 2006-02-16 8:53 am
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
social engineering=idiot user
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#8 2006-02-16 8:59 am
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
MattElmore wrote:
An Applescript needs to be 200k to run rm -rf ~/ ?
There was obviously a lot of commenting. 
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#9 2006-02-16 9:11 am
Re: First Mac Trojan?
There were trojans like this going back to the bulletin board days.
Write the apple script, give it a jpeg icon with resedit, call it "brook shields nude.jpeg" - and post it on a newsgroup/bulletin board.
This is old.
A real trojan actually does something useful while doing something else in the background - like the spyware apps that abound.
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#10 2006-02-16 10:18 am
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#11 2006-02-16 11:01 am
Re: First Mac Trojan?
This isn't anything to worry about. If you are willing to enter your password for a jpeg that opens as an application, you probably deserve for it to happen.
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#12 2006-02-16 12:14 pm
Re: First Mac Trojan?
Sophos claims to have detected first OS X worm 3:57PM
Security specialist Sophos has reported what it says is the first OS X worm.
The OSX/Leap-A worm spreads via the iChat instant messaging application, forwarding itself as a file called 'latestpics.tgz' (masquerading as screenshots of OS X 10.5) to contacts on the infected users' buddy list. When the archive file is opened on a computer it disguises its contents with a JPEG graphic icon in an attempt to convince people that it is harmless.
The worm uses the text 'oompa' as an infection marker in the resource forks of infected programs to prevent it from reinfecting the same files but doesn't appear to do any damage.
However resource forks are largely a thing of the past - a legacy from OS 9 - suggesting that few files on up-to-date systems will be infected.
Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant for Sophos which makes anti-virus software for OS X said that Mac users should no longer think that they do not have to worry about viruses.
'Some owners of Mac computers have held the belief that Mac OS X is incapable of harbouring computer viruses, but Leap-A will leave them shellshocked, as it shows that the malware threat on Mac OS X is real,' he said.
He added that, 'Apple Mac users need to be just as careful running unknown or unsolicited code on their computers as their friends and colleagues running Windows,' although there is nothing in this alert to suggest anything of the sort.
Users who have encountered the virus - though not via iChat but by downloading the file - report that it attempts to execute code via the Terminal, but fails, though another thread suggests that it does appear to be able to replicate itself. It will not run at all if the user does not launch it via the Finder.
As ever, the message to users is not to open a file unless you are sure of its provenance.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/83595/sopho … virus.html
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#13 2006-02-16 1:01 pm
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
ArtemisG3 wrote:
Hey guys, check out these pictures
At least you commented out the really nasty bit 
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#14 2006-02-16 1:04 pm
Re: First Mac Trojan?
MattElmore wrote:
At least you commented out the really nasty bit
I forgot I left that in there. That is a carryover from v0.1b1 
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#15 2006-02-16 1:51 pm
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
The story even made the local news here in Alberta. I personally think it's a bunch of BS. Any virus or trojan that needs you password to be affective is not a very big threat. Not even worth an OS update. 
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#16 2006-02-16 2:48 pm
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
peepl_r_dum wrote:
The story even made the local news here in Alberta. I personally think it's a bunch of BS. Any virus or trojan that needs you password to be affective is not a very big threat. Not even worth an OS update.
Thats just it - it doesn't need your password if you run as an admin.
I personally, and most of the mac users I personally know also run as admin. For us this has been okay, despite persons warning us that we should be using an unprivileged account. For most things, you can only really screw your own user account over unless you put in your admin password. THIS is the first trojan I've heard of where an admin user can screw everyone on the machine over without said password.
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#17 2006-02-16 3:20 pm
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
Does anyone know if the virus is also available as a universal binary?
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#18 2006-02-16 3:37 pm
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
smilr wrote:
peepl_r_dum wrote:
The story even made the local news here in Alberta. I personally think it's a bunch of BS. Any virus or trojan that needs you password to be affective is not a very big threat. Not even worth an OS update.
Thats just it - it doesn't need your password if you run as an admin.
I personally, and most of the mac users I personally know also run as admin. For us this has been okay, despite persons warning us that we should be using an unprivileged account. For most things, you can only really screw your own user account over unless you put in your admin password. THIS is the first trojan I've heard of where an admin user can screw everyone on the machine over without said password.
Mmmm, I must have misunderstood. Oh well, I don't run in admin mode anyhow. 
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#19 2006-02-16 5:59 pm
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
peepl_r_dum wrote:
Mmmm, I must have misunderstood. Oh well, I don't run in admin mode anyhow.
Didn't you cross over to the dark side? 
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#21 2006-02-16 6:42 pm
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
mtpalms wrote:
peepl_r_dum wrote:
Mmmm, I must have misunderstood. Oh well, I don't run in admin mode anyhow.
Didn't you cross over to the dark side?
I'm only having a quickie affair. 
I don't ever use my PC for the internet or email. 
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#22 2006-02-16 7:20 pm
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
Some info for the sky-is-falling-people who don't bother to RTFM.
You cannot be infected by this unless you do all of the following:
1) Are somehow sent (via email, iChat, etc.) or download the "latestpics.tgz" file
2) Double-click on the file to decompress it
3) Double-click on the resulting file to "open" it
...and then for non-Admin users, it fails to infect most applications.
You cannot simply "catch" the virus. Even if someone does send you the "latestpics.tgz" file, you cannot be infected unless you unarchive the file, and then open it.
A few important points
-- This should probably be classified as a Trojan, not a virus, because it doesn't self-propagate externally (though it could arguably be called a very non-virulent virus)
-- It does not exploit any security holes; rather it uses "social engineering" to get the user to launch it on their system
-- If you're not running as an admin user, it will silently fail to infect most applications
-- It doesn't actually do anything other than attempt to propagate itself via iChat
-- It has a bug in the code that prevents it from working as intended, which has the side-effect of preventing infected applications from launching
-- It's not particularly sophisticated
You have an absolutely breath-taking... heiney. I mean, that thing's good. I wanna be friends with it.
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#23 2006-02-16 8:45 pm
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I wonder if it has a mechanism to handle if the files are already in /tmp/ because I'm just going to go ahead and create a file called latestpics and latestpics.tar.gz in the /tmp/ dir and make the files immutable and then go ahead and create the InputManagers dir in the Libraries and deny access to all but root . . . no-one here needs SafariStand anyway . . . anyone know where I can get it to test it on a sacrificial machine?
We don't actually have access to external iChat at the moment as the AIM servers are blocked but we will eventually be running an internal Jabber server. But I'd hate someone to download it, and propagate it via "id 10 t" mode.
That begs the question, does it propagate via only AIM connections, or Bonjour(stupid name!) and Jabber as well?
And this is much like an Anna Kournikova virus as that required users to open the payload.
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#24 2006-02-16 10:31 pm
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Re: First Mac Trojan?
underhand is more of a trojan than this... at least underhand has a nice payload (trojan proxy server)
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#25 2006-02-16 10:43 pm
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CaptKevMan wrote:
Time to stop taking security for granted.
A false sense of security is worse than no security at all.
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