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#76 2006-03-08 10:28 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

MacMonkey wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

Becuase an animal cannot consent.

Actually it can, but that doesn't make it right.

Think of the kittens people... think of the kittens.sad

Was that an attempt at a joke?


Because if it was, it failed.


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#77 2006-03-08 10:46 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

You've never killed kittens before?


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#78 2006-03-08 11:50 pm

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Re: Sex with child doll

Chickenhawk wrote:

MacMonkey wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

Becuase an animal cannot consent.

Actually it can, but that doesn't make it right.

Think of the kittens people... think of the kittens.sad

Was that an attempt at a joke?


Because if it was, it failed.

The first part was not a joke.


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#79 2006-03-08 11:51 pm

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Re: Sex with child doll

Then prove to me how an animal can consent. Just because you say its so doesn't make it true.


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#80 2006-03-09 12:07 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

Chickenhawk wrote:

Then prove to me how an animal can consent. Just because you say its so doesn't make it true.

I don't really know why I'm going here lol but spread some peanut butter on your balls, spread your legs in front of your dog, and see what happens. roll


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#81 2006-03-09 12:21 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

lol




lol

I can't believe you went there.


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#82 2006-03-09 12:33 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

Duke Stratosphere wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

Then prove to me how an animal can consent. Just because you say its so doesn't make it true.

I don't really know why I'm going here lol but spread some peanut butter on your balls, spread your legs in front of your dog, and see what happens. roll

if you put the hind legs of a sheep in hip wadders with ya, then they cant get away; no matter how much they buck.. 


Thats what I heard anyway. http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/bignervousgrin.gif

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#83 2006-03-09 9:47 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

resedit wrote:

HeadonaStick wrote:

resedit wrote:


Just because something is legal does not make it ethical.

True, but just because something is unethical doesn't necessarily mean it should be illegal.

Agreed.

And this takes us on a divergent politcal and business thread.


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#84 2006-03-09 10:22 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

If a gorilla can learn sign language, then surely it can consent, no?


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#85 2006-03-09 10:31 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

Metacell wrote:

If a gorilla can learn sign language, then surely it can consent, no?

I don't think any gorillas have learned sign language. Chimps have. And I don't think anyone asked.

Much on a par with don't ask, don't tell


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#86 2006-03-09 11:02 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

Wasn't Koko a gorilla?


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#87 2006-03-16 6:14 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

MrJ in OZ wrote:

So I beg the question.

Should this be allowed?

Should this be illegal?

Is there smt wrong with this type of thing or whatever floats ur boat?

Does this open legal doors in other countries and what mess could come from it if any?

hmm
I am Japanese and though I was born and live in America, I am quite familiar with this doll fetish culture that's developed in Japan..

This is a fact that I think you guys have over looked.
It's a "Doll Fetish".. it's not about sex with children or sex with adults...
it's about sex with dolls, whether the dolls even look human for some of these people isn't even important.

Most of the dolls are of an adult/teenage design.. but a few companies do make much younger looking models..
but you got to remember Japanese people are tiny.. so what might look like a little kid, could actually be representing a teenager.

Here is a link to a site showing all the different types of dolls currently available in Japan.
http://www.dolldataroom.org/dolls.html
To be quite honest if I had the money I wouldn't mind getting one of these dolls myself, some of them are really beautiful.

Now to answer some of those questions..
I see no good reason why a child like sex doll should be made illegal anywhere.
Just as I see no reason why an adult looking sex doll should be made illegal.
I mean.. truth be told the dolls them self's are not pornographic,
nor technically are they even sexual. they are just big pieces of rubber and plastic,
Yes they are imitations of the natural human form but whats wrong with that?
What people choose to do with them is they're own business.

And I don't see how it could open legal doors to anything that any other sex toy couldn't..
unless you mean if they made a law agents them..
Cause that could lead to more stupid law's that could eventually lead to people getting arrested for holding a naked barbie doll in public..
(I have yet to see a little girl who didn't have one)

Now granted I'm sure if the child like dolls became available in the states we'd be hearing all kinds of news stories every time one of them is found owned by one of those sickos that actually hurts people.

and there's no doubt that such dolls would attract some pedofiles.
but wouldn't it also create a much easier way to track down and monitor these sickos before they hurt real kids?
(that's just a thought)

even so.. that connection would be made by the news simply to make a connection..
(like when some kid goes and a violet spree and they try to connect it to video games.)
some people who would have them might do bad things
but I think most of the people won't.

And I'm sure the religious folks would have a field day with it..
but then they hate just about everything technology produces anyway..
so who care what they think.

In the end I think it all comes down to fantasy.

We should all be allowed to live out our fantasies as we see fit
and be allowed to use what ever we need to fulfill them.
as long as it doesn't directly harm anybody else or anybody else's property (or animals for that matter.. cause that's just wrong). smile


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#88 2006-03-16 9:20 am

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did you register just to say that?


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#89 2006-03-16 12:36 pm

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So what if he did?  Do you have something substantial to argue his points with?

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#90 2006-03-16 12:47 pm

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Re: Sex with child doll

I've been reading the MAF for awhile.. but yeah.. this is the first time I felt like saying anything..

I guess a topic has to get pretty weird before I add my two cents..



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#91 2006-03-16 12:51 pm

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Re: Sex with child doll

This doll is really scary.

That would give me nightmares.

eek


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#92 2006-03-16 12:53 pm

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Re: Sex with child doll

digitalzen wrote:

even so.. that connection would be made by the news simply to make a connection..
(like when some kid goes and a violet spree and they try to connect it to video games.)
some people who would have them might do bad things
but I think most of the people won't.

Is violent spree the only act of violence?


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#93 2006-03-16 12:54 pm

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Re: Sex with child doll

bratboy wrote:

This doll is really scary.

That would give me nightmares.

eek

That's for multi-cock action, you see?


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#94 2006-03-16 12:58 pm

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THAT'S WHAT THE FUSS IS ABOUT?!?

Oh, for crying out loud.

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#95 2006-03-16 1:01 pm

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Re: Sex with child doll

digitalzen wrote:

I've been reading the MAF for awhile.. but yeah.. this is the first time I felt like saying anything..

I guess a topic has to get pretty weird before I add my two cents..

Lurker freak.
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#96 2006-03-16 1:05 pm

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Re: Sex with child doll

Warning: The link in this post is not only NSFW - trust me, you DON'T want that on the screen when your boss wanders by -  it's seriously smurfed-up disturbing.  The only reason it's being allowed - tentatively - is that it's so completely and totally on-topic.  And that it now comes with an NSFW warning. - Oats


oatmeal wrote:

THAT'S WHAT THE FUSS IS ABOUT?!?

Oh, for crying out loud.

This fuss is probably more about dolls like this.

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#97 2006-03-16 1:10 pm

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Re: Sex with child doll

oatmeal wrote:

THAT'S WHAT THE FUSS IS ABOUT?!?

Oh, for crying out loud.

If the page was loaded with boy dolls with erections I wouldn't feel a need to fuss. That's probably something you won't understand. shrug


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#98 2006-03-17 12:57 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

Personally I find this much more disturbing..  even more so cause it's actually sold out.
http://www.sextoysex.com/sex/start/view … pnum=NO639
confused


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#99 2006-03-17 1:47 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

digitalzen wrote:

Personally I find this much more disturbing..  even more so cause it's actually sold out.
http://www.sextoysex.com/sex/start/view … pnum=NO639
confused

I am SO getting one of those!


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#100 2006-03-17 3:43 am

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Re: Sex with child doll

Warning: The link in this post is not only NSFW - trust me, you DON'T want that on the screen when your boss wanders by -  it's seriously smurfed-up disturbing.  The only reason it's being allowed - tentatively - is that it's so completely and totally on-topic.  And that it now comes with an NSFW warning. - Oats



bratboy wrote:

oatmeal wrote:

THAT'S WHAT THE FUSS IS ABOUT?!?

Oh, for crying out loud.

This fuss is probably more about dolls like this.

OK, that's just not smurfing right.

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