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#1 2006-03-02 6:19 pm
- mikedemo
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Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
ABC News tries to answer this. 
http://abcnews.go.com/International/CSM … id=1674886
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#2 2006-03-02 6:26 pm
- macnuke
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
and they had a PC guy answer it?
tsk tsk.
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#3 2006-03-02 6:33 pm
- skymt
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
ABC News wrote:
Apple also opened the door to hackers by using a well-known and widely available computer language called UNIX in its latest OS X operating system.

That's awesome!
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#4 2006-03-02 6:41 pm
- Jack Sparrow
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
skymt wrote:
ABC News wrote:
Apple also opened the door to hackers by using a well-known and widely available computer language called UNIX in its latest OS X operating system.
That's awesome!
That made my day.
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#5 2006-03-02 6:50 pm
Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Wow. This guy is almost worse than Dvorak.
Almost.
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#6 2006-03-02 7:02 pm
- Egress
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
OMG ROFLCOPTER
I don't know where to begin...
I'll just mention my favorite. The article mentions that "these problems have affected a relatively small number of Mac users". I have been doing my damndest to find a single example of a real-world user who's been infected, and I CAN'T FIND ONE!
Not that the author would grasp the term "proof of concept" when he believes UNIX is a "language"...
I think I'll start an "I still have a smug look" campaign. While I'm at it, I should start an email campaign for the Christian Science Monitor to fire Tom Regan for gross incompetence. That's all I can call it.
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#7 2006-03-02 8:14 pm
- mikedemo
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Egress wrote:
OMG ROFLCOPTER
...I think I'll start an "I still have a smug look" campaign. While I'm at it, I should start an email campaign for the Christian Science Monitor to fire Tom Regan for gross incompetence. That's all I can call it.

Hey, doesn't Disney own ABC. Hmmm maybe we should shoot a copy of this article to Steve
. He's on the board y'know. Maybe he can get the guy to report in Iraq. 
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#8 2006-03-02 8:41 pm
- mtpalms
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Ingtana came a few days later, and could pass between Macs running OS X Version 10.4 over Bluetooth wireless connections.
Yet they never mention that this was patched last year, nor that no one appears to have been affected by either.
By simply visiting a site set up by a hacker, malicious code could be downloaded into a Macintosh computer...
I could start farting gold doubloons tomorrow too, but it's highly unlikely.
Wake me when a real threat happens.
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#9 2006-03-02 9:08 pm
Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Not only is he almost worse that Dvorak, he even quotes him in the article.
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#10 2006-03-02 9:27 pm
Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
I have no idea why people like to make idiots of themselves.
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#11 2006-03-02 9:30 pm
- macnuke
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
one of the editors at MacWorld had a copy of the "virus/trojan"
they did their damnest to make it work.. couldn't do it tho.
so much for the theat
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#12 2006-03-02 10:30 pm
- Shadowless
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Bonjour iChat and Bluetooth file sharing. Two features I just don't use and most people don't use. And the Safari hole is closed now, I believe (that "safe file" option shouldn't have been selected to begin with).
We're still waiting for something real.
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#13 2006-03-02 10:33 pm
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Ahh my. I tremble in fear.
It's just like that guy (Yakov Epstein, professor of psycology), claiming that Apple would adopt Windows.
AKA: Load of Crap.
#14 2006-03-03 1:02 am
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
"As of press time no fix was available"
He should have checked Software Update. The fix went in yesterday.
Not bad considering the new Safari 'Open Safe Files' vulnerability came up only a week or two back.
The whole article reads as though it was written by someone without much real understanding of technology, but a passing recognition of certain terms and buzzwords. It's the sort of article that people read and say "well, Macs are just as bad as PCs after all!" Sadly there was no place for reader comments to try to correct the more egregious errors.
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#15 2006-03-03 2:18 am
Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Gary Patterson wrote:
"As of press time no fix was available"
He should have checked Software Update. The fix went in yesterday.
Not bad considering the new Safari 'Open Safe Files' vulnerability came up only a week or two back.
It's a common courtesy in the Windows and Linux world to notify a vendor of a vulnerability and allow them to patch it before going public with it.
I suspect we won't get that courtesy much in the Mac world simply because of the novelty of being one to find a bug that can be exploited by a worm/virus.
Of course the security bugs that affect more than just Mac OS will be more likely to get that courtesy (such as a Samba bug) but OS X specific bugs - less likely.
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#16 2006-03-05 5:50 am
- reece_james
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Hmm this guy ranks up with people at Uni who make fools of themselves on the public forums. Things like "Is Apple still around?", "XP is newer than OS X, therefore it is better." (A reference to the original release date of 10.0.0! It took me a while to work out what he was on about) and "OS X isn't as secure as XP, I read it on Slashdot" The scary thing is that the ppl posting this crap go to a lecture focused on Unix. The lecturer even talked at length about Darwin and also explained OS X is Darwin.
I guess you can't tell people it's an Apple when they swear black n' blue it's a Banana. I guess a 4x2 or a Pismo might knock some sense into them but I doubt it!
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#17 2006-03-05 7:39 am
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
reece_james wrote:
I guess a 4x2 or a Pismo might knock some sense into them but I doubt it!
You guys call them 4x2s? In the US its 2x4s. Makes sense. Your drains whirl in the other direction to. 
I'm not a doctor but I'll take a look!
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#18 2006-03-05 8:07 am
- Egress
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
4x2 is also a derisive term for a vehicle that looks off-road, but has two wheel drive.
In the legendary Charlie Wenzel thread, they constantly made fun of Charlie's "4x2" Silverado.
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#19 2006-03-05 9:43 am
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Cobalt60 wrote:
reece_james wrote:
I guess a 4x2 or a Pismo might knock some sense into them but I doubt it!
You guys call them 4x2s? In the US its 2x4s. Makes sense. Your drains whirl in the other direction to.
I've heard it said both ways. Interesting since we are now metric, yet if you ordered one, the HW store would know what you were on about.
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#20 2006-03-05 12:39 pm
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
reece_james wrote:
Cobalt60 wrote:
reece_james wrote:
I guess a 4x2 or a Pismo might knock some sense into them but I doubt it!
You guys call them 4x2s? In the US its 2x4s. Makes sense. Your drains whirl in the other direction to.
I've heard it said both ways. Interesting since we are now metric, yet if you ordered one, the HW store would know what you were on about.
I have never heard it as 4x2 here in the US. As far as I know, they actually were 2x4 at one time. The actual dimensions have steadily shrunk over time. I see metal studs in some houses these days and composite joists with a solid cap. That threw me, the first time I saw those joists. I don't think new houses are expected to last a long time.
I'm not a doctor but I'll take a look!
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#21 2006-03-05 12:49 pm
- MacBoy4139
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
Cobalt60 wrote:
reece_james wrote:
Cobalt60 wrote:
You guys call them 4x2s? In the US its 2x4s. Makes sense. Your drains whirl in the other direction to.I've heard it said both ways. Interesting since we are now metric, yet if you ordered one, the HW store would know what you were on about.
I have never heard it as 4x2 here in the US. As far as I know, they actually were 2x4 at one time. The actual dimensions have steadily shrunk over time. I see metal studs in some houses these days and composite joists with a solid cap. That threw me, the first time I saw those joists. I don't think new houses are expected to last a long time.
They are probably cheaper and/or stronger than before.
Certain building codes require certain things. You should see the 2004 building codes in Florida how they changed from 2003.
It's drastic.
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#22 2006-03-05 12:54 pm
- Freakout Jackson
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
You all better be careful, someday I'll be able to shoot laserbeams out my ass.
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#23 2006-03-05 1:29 pm
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Re: Why Hackers Are Taking a Bite of Apple
You can't already? It came in my kit.
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