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#1 2006-03-09 6:02 pm

Orion
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A question about weddings

I was reading Malkin's topic about her wedding (Congrats by the way!) and it got me thinking.  She is doing it kinda the way I would.  Simple, private and personal.  I am wondering why weddings are so huge and why so many people spend so damn much money on them.  Granted, its a once in a lifetime event (hopefully blush )  so you may want to live it up a little, but come on.  Why spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on a dress that will probably only be worn once?  Why invite everyone in your family, even if you really don't know who they are?  Why are the women's dresses at least ten times more expensive than the guy's tux rentals?  Why don't the women rent their dresses?  Why do people cry when it doesn't go exactly to plan?  Why am I asking so many questions?  blush  confused


Does anyone know or at least have an idea, thought, or theory?


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#2 2006-03-09 6:04 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

As you said, it's once in a lifetime. There's only so many times you can throw a huge party for all your friends and family that will be exactly the way you want it. And you get gifts!


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#3 2006-03-09 6:12 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

Orion wrote:

I was reading Malkin's topic about her wedding (Congrats by the way!) and it got me thinking.  She is doing it kinda the way I would.  Simple, private and personal.  I am wondering why weddings are so huge and why so many people spend so damn much money on them.  Granted, its a once in a lifetime event (hopefully blush )  so you may want to live it up a little, but come on.  Why spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on a dress that will probably only be worn once?  Why invite everyone in your family, even if you really don't know who they are?  Why are the women's dresses at least ten times more expensive than the guy's tux rentals?  Why don't the women rent their dresses?  Why do people cry when it doesn't go exactly to plan?  Why am I asking so many questions?  blush  confused


Does anyone know or at least have an idea, thought, or theory?

i'll go numerically.

1) the importance of big weddings differ from person to person. to my fiance and me, it took some time to come around that we both wanted a fairly major to-do. well, i say we, when it was actually her. i was always the one wanted to the fairly major to-do. wink

2) often times, bridal gowns/dresses/whatever can be passed down, generation to generation. if the bride makes the concious decision to get a dress that could be considered "timeless," it can be assured that the dress will be passed down 2, maybe 3 generations.

3) why invite everyone? in my case (or in my mind), although i may not really, truly know everyone that my mother added to the guest list, they are family, and therefore have had some form of impact in my life and my rearing. plus, again, ours will be a fairly major to-do. and i want prezzies. tongue  (jk)

4) women's dresses? see above for a somewhat decent answer (i believe). tux rentals are so much cheaper because ya ain't payin' to own 'em.

5) why do peole cry when it doesn't always go according to plan? dunno. i suppose it depends on how much time, effort, and money one pours into the whole shabang. personally, i feel confident that should anything go wrong with the ceremony or reception that we'll just look at each other, shrug our shoulders, and make sure someone gets a good picture of it.


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#4 2006-03-09 6:20 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

Orion wrote:

I am wondering why weddings are so huge and why so many people spend so damn much money on them. 


Does anyone know or at least have an idea, thought, or theory?

Cause women like to feel that they're special and want to be the belle of the ball at least once in their life.

As my grandma always said,"A large wedding usually lends itself to a small/short marriage."

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#5 2006-03-09 6:21 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

Oh, and tux rental is not 10 times less than a dress costs. Unless the bride is a bitch who doesn't care about what her bridesmaids have to do, she won't choose $1200 dresses for them.


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#6 2006-03-09 7:07 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

They figure that if they make a big deal out of it, the nuptials won't be seeking divorce in the next year or two.


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#7 2006-03-09 7:08 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

Tallgeese wrote:

Oh, and tux rental is not 10 times less than a dress costs. Unless the bride is a bitch who doesn't care about what her bridesmaids have to do, she won't choose $1200 dresses for them.

Yeah, my tux rental for my sister's wedding last summer was only maybe 30 bucks less than what the bridesmaids paid to buy their dresses outright.


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#8 2006-03-09 7:27 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

my now ex-wifes parents and grandparents spend literally 10's of thousands of dollars for a Houston River Oaks wedding for her and I.

personally, if they had spent the same amount of money teaching her finance we coulda hadda better life. we struggled as all newly weds ( or at least most) and just about the time I was making good money and she was making decent, somewhere she decided it was time for the River Oaks lifestyle.
man.. she went thru money like crap thru a christmas goose.
I wasn't much more moneywise, but I didn't like spending it.
my children are learning what a buck is and how to make money turn into more money.
but dam..... I know the RO evening was 30+.. even as good of time I had, it still felt like it was pissed away..
shoulda took the money and ran with it.

yes, hopefully it will be a one time event for you... spend wisely I say.

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#9 2006-03-09 7:32 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

Possible Reasons in no particular order:
1. Bragging rights
2. Social/financial standing "demands" it
3. Pay back for having been invited to other weddings
4. Fairy-tale-dream-come-true syndrome
5. Center-of-attention syndrome
6. It's just something they want to do

Going into debt for a blow-out wedding is not a good idea. But, if the engaged couple want a big wedding and can afford it... good for them.

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#10 2006-03-09 7:39 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

Bridal spending has increased 100% over last 15 years, the average cost of a wedding now tops $27,000.

I personally think it's because a lot of people are fools and suckers, but I guess we all are when it comes to one thing or another.  shrug

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#11 2006-03-09 7:45 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

As a friend of mine once said, "For most people, it's the last big ceremony in your honor until your funeral."


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#12 2006-03-09 7:47 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

DevoDoc wrote:

As a friend of mine once said, "For most people, it's the last big ceremony in your honor until your funeral."

Yeah, because you won't be able to afford to throw anymore parties after spending that kind of money!  lol

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#13 2006-03-09 8:10 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

I kind of admire what some friends of mine did last month. They got married in Costa Rica.

The cool thing about a wedding in a place like that is...
a) you can invite everyone you know, but you're guaranteed to have small wedding since only close friends and family will show up.
b) if you get married on the beach everyone can dress semi casual. It's too damn hot, sticky, and sandy to wear anything else.
c) the plane flight is a few hundred bucks, but once you're there everything is relatively cheep compared to the states.


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#14 2006-03-09 8:50 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

AAPL Shareholder wrote:

I kind of admire what some friends of mine did last month. They got married in Costa Rica.

The cool thing about a wedding in a place like that is...
a) you can invite everyone you know, but you're guaranteed to have small wedding since only close friends and family will show up.
b) if you get married on the beach everyone can dress semi casual. It's too damn hot, sticky, and sandy to wear anything else.
c) the plane flight is a few hundred bucks, but once you're there everything is relatively cheep compared to the states.

d) and they all leave so you can stay and honeymoon big_smile

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#15 2006-03-09 9:09 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

Tallgeese wrote:

Oh, and tux rental is not 10 times less than a dress costs. Unless the bride is a bitch who doesn't care about what her bridesmaids have to do, she won't choose $1200 dresses for them.

Umm....for my friend's wedding, the tux rentals were about $45 each.  The bridesmaid's dresses were around $400 each.  I would say that is about 10 times more.  Tux rentals must be uber cheap around here.  shrug

As for passing the wedding dress on, my grandma saved hers, but by the time my mom could have used it, it was already getting funny and starting to discolor.  My mom's was doing the same by the time my oldest sister got married.  Both were very nice dresses, not cheap crap, and both were stored properly.

As for a wedding, my folks just had a nice ceremony and then had a dinner later in the evening.  There was no dance, which saved a ton of money and no one seemed to mind it.  I'm like my dad.  I can't dance to save my soul.  My prom date was pissed back in HS because I didn't want to stand around and dance for four hours.  I actually wanted to carry on a conversation, but she just wanted to dance.  Go figure.... confused


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#16 2006-03-09 10:23 pm

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Re: A question about weddings

Personally, I would've rather eloped and kept the money spent on our wedding towards the down payment on our house - much less pressure for me that way. But it is ultimately the wife's decision and my wife is catholic and has a large close family so elopement was out of the question. Making her elderly catholic parents happy was huge, and the pictures and memories are something worth having.

Even so, it's a catch-22 situation. You elope and take the money you would have spent (and her parents would have spent) on the wedding as a down payment on a house. Or you have a wedding, invite lots of friends and family and get lots of money equal or almost equal to what you would have had if you eloped. The only difference is everyones happy, most of the time.

Well, considering what I just said (minus the pressure factor) it really wasn't a catch-22 for us. Our 160 person wedding (medium) was a win win situation so I guess it depends on your situation.


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#17 2006-03-10 12:36 am

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Re: A question about weddings

the last wedding I was in, the tux rental cost me about $150.

But as far as cost versus cost of a bridesmaid's dress, you ever a price a tux to own?

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#18 2006-03-10 12:53 am

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Re: A question about weddings

$150? My Tux cost me less than that, and I own it outright.

And god willing, I'll wear it to my wedding.

At the courthouse.

Booze at my place after for friends and family.


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#19 2006-03-10 12:59 am

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Re: A question about weddings

I personally admire what my parents did. They eloped and just went to a courthouse and married. My dad telegrammed (evidence of how old they are) my grandmother to tell them the news.


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#20 2006-03-10 7:20 am

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Re: A question about weddings

dvpierce wrote:

$150? My Tux cost me less than that, and I own it outright.

And god willing, I'll wear it to my wedding.

At the courthouse.

Booze at my place after for friends and family.

I plan to have the reception first.
Once the wedding is over - aint nothing gonna make me wait.


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#21 2006-03-10 7:53 am

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Re: A question about weddings

To answer the original question - TV and popular culture.  It is hugely insane - let's burden a couple starting out together with a huge ass debt, now that is a good idea.

Take the bloody $25k and put it towards a house for heaven's sake - mutual fund something.

For the record - you can hold a big party for your family and friends any time you feel like it - and it doesn't need to cost as much as a pretty nice car.

Same thing (IMHO) about engagement rings - stupid commercialism.

I've been married for 15 years this spring.  We spent as little as we possibly could on the wedding - something we're still pleased with to this day.

We did spend a modest amount on decent pictures - which I would recommend.  There are people who were at the wedding who are now deceased and it is nice to have pics of them at the event.

Resedit - you're the to-be virgin groom, right?  It'll be the best 30 seconds of your life man- then you can head to the reception.


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#22 2006-03-10 8:01 am

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Re: A question about weddings

toadkiller wrote:

Resedit - you're the to-be virgin groom, right?  It'll be the best 30 seconds of your life man- then you can head to the reception.

Yup - but I was just tryin' to be funny big_smile

I like my Sisters wedding.
She got married at Tilden Park - on a big grassy field there. There was some cost - but it was cheaper than renting a church.

They hired a bagpipe guy - he was pretty good.

The reception - also in the park.
They paid for the kegs - but the rest of the food was organized what family members and friends would bring what.

Sounds cheap - but it was honestly the best wedding I have ever been to.


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#23 2006-03-10 8:16 am

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Re: A question about weddings

Robert B. wrote:

the last wedding I was in, the tux rental cost me about $150.

But as far as cost versus cost of a bridesmaid's dress, you ever a price a tux to own?

Never worn one.

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#24 2006-03-10 8:23 am

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Re: A question about weddings

Res  - so was I.  smile


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#25 2006-03-10 8:53 am

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Re: A question about weddings

Yeah, I just rented a tux for $127....I don't know where to get it much cheaper. Last time I paid $100, I just wanted something nicer this time. Hmm, where did you find a rental for $45?


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