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#51 2006-03-16 2:20 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
radarman wrote:
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Oh, other churches still charge, they just aren't crass enough to set a fixed price in advance...
....except the old 10% tithing rule.That's God's law, not the churches. Most churches have a fairly low tithing rate, though that's not something to be proud of.
Churches not following God's law?
Say it ain't so!
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#52 2006-03-21 10:39 am
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
There was always something fishy about this story. The episode aired four months ago and Hayes said, at the time, that he had no serious problem with it. Maybe the cause of the turnaround is that the Church of Scientology quit on his behalf. It wouldn't excuse Hayes for accepting the Church's decision, but it would make him less of an ass, and rather pitiful.
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#53 2006-03-21 12:05 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
Interesting.
I saw the South Park guys on Letterman last week and they were pretty much, Issac quit, so what?
Be nice to get another source on that.
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Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#54 2006-03-21 12:28 pm
Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
Wow. That's weird.
Also - the episode is available on youtube.com. I just saw it, and... wow, that's weird too.
There's a long section where scientology is 'explained' with "This is actually what scientologists believe" across the screen the entire time. That can't be what they really believe, can it? Whew. 
The credits were interesting too, in that they only named two people. John Smith and Jane Smith. Again and again and again, all of the departments, all of the guest voice stars, everyone - John Smith or Jane Smith. I guess that's to protect the people working on it from lawsuits, eh?
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#55 2006-03-21 12:47 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
Scientology's Web site doesn't really say what they believe except that L. Ron Hubbard's book on the subject is basically their Bible. I never read that book, but I did read Dianeticsand this book. I never noticed anything about Thetans or Xenu in either book, but it's hard to tell what Scientologists actually believe these days. Like Christians and Muslims (and even some Buddhists), they may have developed a whole plethora of beliefs by now that would shock and apall their chosen messiah (in this case, L. Ron Hubbard).
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#56 2006-03-21 12:50 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
Duke Stratosphere wrote:
Like Christians and Muslims (and even some Buddhists), they may have developed a whole plethora of beliefs by now that would shock and apall their chosen messiah (in this case, L. Ron Hubbard).
Wasn't L. Ron Hubbard an alcoholic and abusive towards his wife and children?
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#57 2006-03-21 12:57 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
bratboy wrote:
Duke Stratosphere wrote:
Like Christians and Muslims (and even some Buddhists), they may have developed a whole plethora of beliefs by now that would shock and apall their chosen messiah (in this case, L. Ron Hubbard).
Wasn't L. Ron Hubbard an alcoholic and abusive towards his wife and children?
From what I've read, he was a lot more than that. I don't think Hubbard would be shocked or appalled.
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#58 2006-03-21 12:59 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
Maybe chagrined that he didn't think of it first?
I'm not dead yet.
There are 3 types of people, those who can count and those who can't.
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#59 2006-03-21 1:01 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
charon wrote:
bratboy wrote:
Duke Stratosphere wrote:
Like Christians and Muslims (and even some Buddhists), they may have developed a whole plethora of beliefs by now that would shock and apall their chosen messiah (in this case, L. Ron Hubbard).
Wasn't L. Ron Hubbard an alcoholic and abusive towards his wife and children?
From what I've read, he was a lot more than that. I don't think Hubbard would be shocked or appalled.
Well the whole thing is a money-making scheme. I would guess that many Scientologists actually take the so-called tenets of the religion much more seriously than he actually did.
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#60 2006-03-21 1:01 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
bratboy wrote:
Duke Stratosphere wrote:
Like Christians and Muslims (and even some Buddhists), they may have developed a whole plethora of beliefs by now that would shock and apall their chosen messiah (in this case, L. Ron Hubbard).
Wasn't L. Ron Hubbard an alcoholic and abusive towards his wife and children?
Here's an interesting article about him.
During the ‘50s, DeWolf continues, he conned people out of their money, used black magic, distributed drugs, and took advantage of the church’s female followers, participating in private orgies with his father and three or four women. "His theory was that one has to open or crack a woman’s soul in order for the satanic power to pour through it and into him," Dewolf said in a recent magazine interview. "It got kind of far out, culminating in a variety of sex acts. Dad also had an incredibly violent temper. He was into S&M and would beat his mistresses and shoot them full of drugs." His father used amphetamines and cocaine, DeWolf says, plus some hallucinogens.
(DeWolf is Hubbard's first-born son, who has changed his name. What the point to changing his name when he tells everyone who his father was anyway I have yet to figure out.)
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#61 2006-03-21 1:04 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
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(DeWolf is Hubbard's first-born son, who has changed his name. What the point to changing his name when he tells everyone who his father was anyway I have yet to figure out.)
It gives him distance, and the illusion of plausable deniability.
I'm not dead yet.
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#62 2006-03-21 1:16 pm
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Re: Hayes can't take heat, gets out of kitchen
Look up Scientology on wikipedia, their article is quite extensive.
I could bore you with a philosophical tirade about freedom and tyranny, or try and explain to you what new horizons are suddenly open to me, but I doubt you would understand and if you did it might frighten you. That amuses me.
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