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It's not limited to video games.  When I get bored I play checkers, and that has caused me to jump people on the street. 

I wont even get into what Risk and baseball have taught me to do.   

Seriously though, how do people take this stuff seriously?  Games, like rock and roll, do not breed crime.  It's not rocket science.

Anything other that to hold themselves accountable.

You hit the nail on the head with that.  It appears that today, it's not politically correct to actually blame an individual for his/her actions.  So all a criminal needs to do is just deflect blame, and everything's hunkey-dorey.  Swell. 

Political correctness pisses me off. 

Have you ever learned much about mind control?

Learn something about Nazi anti-Jew propaganda.

Mind control does exist, and it really doesn't take very much to get humans to do very bad things.

Some villagers in countries neighboring Germany helped the German soldiers round up and kill their own Jewish neighbors because the Germans promised them free Schnapps. That's probably not an example of mind control, but it supports my last point.

Ummm....you sure you aren't under the influence of the Political Correct Nazis??

Lets see...They call themselves the "Nut Cases" and roam around in an old Buick...and are not up for 113 charges of potential murder...etc.

Let me see here...we have no idea of where the parents were during this time?

Oh yes, parents don't matter do they, they aren't the ones that corrupted the kids...  give me a break.

These kids are hard core bad to the bone... don't tell me that the games made the kids kill... bull$H!T!

I have almost every type of violent game there is out there for the Mac, and PC, I have played most and beaten all... up to date, I can't even kill a mouse... (have four I caught) I play games to de-stress when I have the chance...now if you are going to tell me that because I play Quake II, or Jedi Knight II, that I am going to go out and kill everyone because I imagined them to be either influenced by the "dark side" or were zombies?

Here is a list for ya.

My favorite games: (not in any particular order)

Quake Series.
Doom Series
Unreal series
Myth Series
Marathon Series
Warcraft Series
Diablo Series
JK: II
MoH:AA
Dark Castle Series
Wolfenstein Series
I forget the others right now...

Now due to the last one I mentioned, you can tell I have been playing longer than quite a few people here... and not to mention that probably longer than quite a few have been alive here...

Although life has been cruel to me in the past, I have yet to kill anyone...

So tell me please what is wrong with that picture? If anything, i should be a killing maniac by now because of all the "violent" games I have played.

Cyberpawz

So tell me please what is wrong with that picture? If anything, i should be a killing maniac by now because of all the "violent" games I have played.

Not all people react the same way to external stimuli. Your observation proves only how you react.

yeah, and if the idea that all of the sudden these kids snapped and decided to go on a rampage, I got a bridge to see ya in brooklyn.

This type of mental instability is not a one day thing, it takes time to evolve, to grow, and control the mental capacity of the person it's effecting...

Since this is true, in any case, Where the hell were the parents? Even my parents can tell when I'm upset, or tired, even if I don't tell them....when I see them that is. I would expect the parents to be able to tell that drastic of a mood swing happen to the kids if this is true.

Cyberpawz

Where the hell were the parents?

When the German soldiers came and asked for help rounding up and murdering local Jews, many parents helped them.

Many Nazis were parents.

Where the hell were the parents? when we had the gladiatorial games, where crowds delighted in vicious bloodshed? I suppose none of the spectators were parents?

Where the hell were the parents?

Busy gathering as a community to smile for the camera at local lynchings. Yes, the photos exist. They even brought their kids. Perhaps they felt it was a new type of American holiday?

Where the hell were the parents?

When the German soldiers came and asked for help rounding up and murdering local Jews, many parents helped them.

Many Nazis were parents.

Where the hell were the parents? when we had the gladiatorial games, where crowds delighted in vicious bloodshed? I suppose none of the spectators were parents?

Where the hell were the parents?

Busy gathering as a community to smile for the camera at local lynchings. Yes, the photos exist. They even brought their kids. Perhaps they felt it was a new type of American holiday?

Nice way of avoiding the question...

try again..

The parents to the kids upon this topic is based on... better?

Cyberpawz

I was attacked by a video game. I don't want to talk about.

You too?  guess what though... I fought back   blew it's head right off

Cyberpawz

Nice way of avoiding the question... try again.. The parents to the kids upon this topic is based on... better?

That you failed to understand the dynamics of the meaningful relationship between my response and your post, and indeed failed to understand that there is a meaningful relationship, casts no doubt with regard to the merit of my post's point.

*sighs*  Actually no I didn't... I just don't want to go back about almost 60 years now to give an "answer" to something that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand...

Nazis had a tendency to "brainwash" right in public, we aren't talking about that, we are talking about the mental stability of children now in where kids are being "effect" by games now...

You still haven't told me how the parents of today in the case of the kids we are talking about...you never stated yet, where they were, or what they were doing while these kids were doing their slaughtering...

The parents in this day and age aren't just giving their kids up to allow them to become mass murders....if you seriously think that, you need to think again...

Cyberpawz

Human nature is not something that radically changes over time, especially if we're discussing recent events like the Holocaust/Nazism.

Your emphasis on time is not helpful because it is mostly irrelevant.

My point is very powerful. It shows that parents are not always suitable moral guides, and are not quite often. That undermines your intent to allow harmful content to be available for consumption by minors with little or no "questions asked." Not only are parents often lacking morally, they also are not omnipresent and omniscient.

I don't deny that at all, actually i agree with you there...but it still doesn't answer the question...where were the parents in this case...as I stated in my previous posts that to have an effect that drastic on a child, their attitude would of had to change almost as drastically, unless they were all so well at hiding their true intentions that the parents and everyone around them never saw a difference...

Something is wrong, and I don't think it's just the kids...

Cyberpawz

"The accused are alleged ringleader Leon Wiley, 25; Joe Ralls, 26, and his two younger half-brothers, Demarcus Ralls, 18, and Jhomari Sutton, 20; their cousin, Deonte Donald, 17; and their sister-in-law, Aminah Shanta Dorsey- Colbert, 25."

These weren't little kids. They all knew what they were doing.

Does anybody seriously believe that these people, who went around killing other people without reason, had any plans to be productive members of society before they started playing violent video games?

I'm scared of people who doubt their own self-control enough to say that any normal-thinking person can be turned into a sociopath by playing video games.

Reminds me of "Postal". What a fine game. I think if any game would cause people to go on a violent rampage, that's it.

It's about personal accountability. They didn't kill because they played a game about killing. Silliness. If a game causes you to kill, then something else would have if the game wasn't there. Somebody that weak-minded could be set off by anything.

Sure, video games lead kids to kill. Twenty years ago, people were certain Pac-Man was ruining the nation's youth. Before that, it was smoking pot, and before that it was playing pinball games, and before that it was jazz ...

It's so much easier to assign blame than analyze these things. These kids did what they did for reasons that are unique to their lives. If there are underlying causes for all crimes, it certainly isn't video games or Hollywood movies. I personally believe it's a spiritual vacuum in today's society, but that's just me.

I admit I'm biased because I work in the media, but I personally think culture (or what passes for it nowadays) is caused by people, not the other way around. In other words, it's a reflection of society. If anyone worries about young people playing violent video games and behaving like degenerate delinquents, it makes more sense to ask what could make kids do that than simply point and shriek.

What's necessary is a public debate about these things. As a community we need to do some soul-searching, not just get pissed off.

And by the way, I'm hoping we can drop the example of people killing their Jewish neighbours during the war. It's a poor analogy in this case.