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kb5zhh wrote:

You of course don't factor in the infinite wait times that many americans have for medical treatment.

If you had been reading this thread - you will see that I gave a perfectly workable solution.
Oh - and just so you know, even those who are not insured can go see a doctor - there are plenty of ways to get it payed for.

Now if you are not insured and you need an expensive medication - that is a real problem.
But it is one that can be solved without universal health care.

resedit wrote:

kb5zhh wrote:

You of course don't factor in the infinite wait times that many americans have for medical treatment.

If you had been reading this thread - you will see that I gave a perfectly workable solution.
Oh - and just so you know, even those who are not insured can go see a doctor - there are plenty of ways to get it payed for.

Now if you are not insured and you need an expensive medication - that is a real problem.
But it is one that can be solved without universal health care.

The wait time you continue to mention are not wait times to see a doctor.  You are dissembling.

iBubba wrote:

resedit wrote:

Now if you are not insured and you need an expensive medication - that is a real problem.
But it is one that can be solved without universal health care.

How?

state based systems or something.

sturner wrote:

With baggy pants hanging around our knees.

Annoys me to no end to see that.

Last edited by Shadowless (2006-03-29 10:41 am)

As for how important it is to have health insurance, my dad recently had to have his appenix removed, and my little sister broke her leg (the femur I think? it's the big upper bone, not the shin part). My sister breaking her leg was especially costly, but we would've been in big financial trouble if we didn't have insurance. So, it is important, and neccessary in most cases IMO.

I remeber living in England and liking the system there. I was young so I don't remember anything specific, but my parents were happy and I was too. The American system could use some change (price regualtion, for example), but all in all it's ok. And we do have some of the best doctors in the world, don't forget.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Shadowless wrote:

I might be a little late to the game, but in response to the first post:

Don't ever compare being willing to give your life to protect the freedom of someone you don't even know, and complaining about money.

I don't care what you think about why we went into Iraq, but it takes serious balls for our soldiers to go out there every day and risk their lives so that eventually the Iraqi people will be free. The French didn't go in because they were getting oil from them and it would be a bad "financial investment". They don't care too much about people, just business and money.

That's dishonorable and cowardly.

Please, do not make this mistake again.

Try to stay calm and rational, k?

Rational I can do. His comment felt somewhat misguided, and I intended to notify him of the mistake. I'm done now.

Shadowless wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Shadowless wrote:

I might be a little late to the game, but in response to the first post:

Don't ever compare being willing to give your life to protect the freedom of someone you don't even know, and complaining about money.

I don't care what you think about why we went into Iraq, but it takes serious balls for our soldiers to go out there every day and risk their lives so that eventually the Iraqi people will be free. The French didn't go in because they were getting oil from them and it would be a bad "financial investment". They don't care too much about people, just business and money.

That's dishonorable and cowardly.

Please, do not make this mistake again.

Try to stay calm and rational, k?

Rational I can do. His comment felt somewhat misguided, and I intended to notify him of the mistake. I'm done now.

His opinion is no more or less valuable than yours. And frankly when you start spouting such nonsense you don't help your credibility.

SHUT UP.

Ok, firstly, I'm not spouting nonsense. None of what I said about us in Iraq isn't true. I do not support the President's reasons for going in and I agree that they were overstated (ties with Al Quaeda? are you joking?), as well as that he should apologize for being misleading. That doesn't change the fact that there are Americans there risking their lives. (This should really be a different thread to discuss this though, as there is a lot to discuss obviously.)

The problem is in saying that Americans are cowards compared to the French because the French protest but the Americans go to war. I just didn't see the logic in involving Iraq in a thing about health care. I was offended.

He could have easily made a good point without involving anything else. I do agree though that Americans do seem less involved in the political process than they should be (I mean, it directly affects all our lives) and that we should more actively push for better healthcare.

My problem was with how he stated his point, not his point.

Pariah wrote:

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Yeah, I'm gonna start a new thread. I don't really want to derail this.

Ra wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

I find it most amusing that the solution people keep mentioning for health care woes is to "get a better job."

That just strikes me as nutz.

But one should always strive for getting better jobs, regardless. Besides, some employers offer better benefits.

I think it speaks volumes of your worldview.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Ra wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

I find it most amusing that the solution people keep mentioning for health care woes is to "get a better job."

That just strikes me as nutz.

But one should always strive for getting better jobs, regardless. Besides, some employers offer better benefits.

I think it speaks volumes of your worldview.

World view? What has "world view" to do with switching to a job that offers better benefits? Why paying over $1,000 per month for health insurance when the average family health insurance coverage through a government (city, state, borough, etc.) costs under $300.00 per month? Mine is under $200.00 per month.

Last edited by Ra (2006-03-29 9:10 pm)

user wrote:

I just interviewed for a job that pays 100% health coverage.

Talk about stoked!

Joining the military? Way to go user!