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#26 2006-04-05 1:14 pm
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Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
1 1/2 years? Dude, I got a iBook when I worked for them and a week later they updated them. I didn't qualify for the swap due to a technicality.
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#27 2006-04-05 2:04 pm
Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
Alien wrote:
Discrete GPU's will be one of those things that differentiate the PowerBooks -- I'm sorry: MacBook Pro's, from the iBooks. I wouldn't count on any Intel iBook coming with discrete GPU's.
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Apple had better offer discrete graphics cards in a laptop under $2000 or I'll be pissed. 
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#29 2006-04-05 5:40 pm
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Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
The Cynic wrote:
Czachorski wrote:
robco wrote:
No, but it can be good enough.
I'm no gamer, but that seems to fly in the face of the very foundations of the gaming mantra.
What, "Have fun?"
You don't need to game at 1600x1200 with 8xFSAA and 16X AA with every setting at its highest to have fun.
Ex: CS 1.6
Totally. Agree.
I probably should have put a wink, wink in there, because I was just getting a jab in on the usual BS about how you can't game on anything but the highest-of-ends of computers and how Apple is always alleged to be lacking in that department with respect to graphics and speed. That seems to be repeated around here by the same complainers ad-naseum.
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#30 2006-04-05 5:51 pm
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Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
akb825 wrote:
Alien wrote:
Discrete GPU's will be one of those things that differentiate the PowerBooks -- I'm sorry: MacBook Pro's, from the iBooks. I wouldn't count on any Intel iBook coming with discrete GPU's.
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.tsooJApple had better offer discrete graphics cards in a laptop under $2000 or I'll be pissed.
Alien said: Better start drinking. You only have a few months to go.
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Is that "pissed" as in angry or "pissed" as in drunk? I think we have a conflict in usages. Who let the Canadian in? 
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#31 2006-04-05 6:00 pm
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Since I don't drink, it will most likely be the angry kind. 
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#32 2006-04-05 6:04 pm
Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
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Those are better than just fine. I can run WoW on an 867 QS with a Geforce 3. WoW really isn't that big of a resource hog (it just needs ram out the ass...which could pose a small problem with integrated video if you don't upgrade your ram).
Yes, because your GF3 has vertex shaders. WoW makes use of them. Integrated graphics simply don't cut it for any 3D gaming.
You're all better MacAddicts than I. If the iBook replacements only have integrated graphics, I'm jumping ship and getting a Dell or HP. And judging by the bump in mini pricing, the days of a sub $1K Mac laptop are firmly behind us.
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#33 2006-04-05 7:31 pm
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Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
ukimalefu wrote:
robco wrote:
I'm not expecting 100fps in Doom III - that's just not a realistic expectation.
Because ID software capped it at 60.
That's what I was going to say!
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#34 2006-04-05 7:55 pm
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Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
akb825 wrote:
Since I don't drink, it will most likely be the angry kind.
That is what I thought. I'm just trying to be clever.
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#35 2006-04-05 8:47 pm
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Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
robco wrote:
NAG wrote:
Those are better than just fine. I can run WoW on an 867 QS with a Geforce 3. WoW really isn't that big of a resource hog (it just needs ram out the ass...which could pose a small problem with integrated video if you don't upgrade your ram).
Yes, because your GF3 has vertex shaders. WoW makes use of them. Integrated graphics simply don't cut it for any 3D gaming.
You're all better MacAddicts than I. If the iBook replacements only have integrated graphics, I'm jumping ship and getting a Dell or HP. And judging by the bump in mini pricing, the days of a sub $1K Mac laptop are firmly behind us.
The integrated graphics in the mini has vertex and pixel shaders. Why don't you stop whining and ask one of the people here with an Intel Mac Mini how it plays WoW?
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#36 2006-04-05 9:02 pm
Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
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The integrated graphics in the mini has vertex and pixel shaders. Why don't you stop whining and ask one of the people here with an Intel Mac Mini how it plays WoW?
Like here? It doesn't run very well. It's not just a Mac issue, Windows machines with integrated graphics don't run it very well either. Even casual gamers should get at least a low-end graphics card. Look at the results from the iMac, then the mini. The iMac, with a dedicated graphics chip, runs the game much, much better.
For non-gaming apps the mini should work just fine. People who do want to play games should look elsewhere.
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#37 2006-04-06 12:23 am
Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
Switch wrote:
The integrated graphics in the mini has vertex and pixel shaders. Why don't you stop whining and ask one of the people here with an Intel Mac Mini how it plays WoW?
Let's get this straight. It has pixel shaders. Vertex shaders (as well as transform and lighting) are handled on the CPU. I really thought that it would be better than the Radeon 9200 on previous Macs, but looking at the data so far has proved me wrong.
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#38 2006-04-06 3:10 am
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Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
They will anounce in June and ship in September
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#39 2006-04-06 3:14 am
Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
If they're starting production now and expecting 1.2 million units by September, I think not. 
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#41 2006-04-06 9:21 am
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Re: Intel iBooks coming soon
Which usually starts in April - for education institution buying. If they don't have it on the shelves in volume by June/July - that is a problem.
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