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There are a few things that are particularly impressive to me.

1) The installer repartitions the hard drive without erasing everything first.  Granted this has been around for a while in 3rd party software, but I don't think Apple has ever directly supported it.

2) It'll be part of Leopard.

he got  13 (more like 14) thuosand dollars for doing something that Apple just did here. At least he finished before Apple released this. How is he pissed exactly?

Last edited by Digital (2006-04-05 8:48 am)

Digital wrote:

he got  13 (more like 14) thuosand dollars for doing something that Apple just did here. At least he finished before Apple released this.

No, not they guy who got paid. The guy who payed the guy to make the "hack." Guy.

Zander wrote:

Digital wrote:

he got  13 (more like 14) thuosand dollars for doing something that Apple just did here. At least he finished before Apple released this.

No, not they guy who got paid. The guy who payed the guy to make the "hack." Guy.

its nearly 7 am and I had four hours of sleep,  no wonder I missed that. Anywho, time for school

BAMBIOS is one possibility or the 'latest firmware updates' might have just added the CSM to the EFI.

One major problem for this to be really useful (i.e. not just for games) still exists ; read-write drivers for NTFS for Mac OS X and/or read-write drivers for HFS+ for Windows.

Heh heh. The BBC really do lap up Apple.

Last edited by Zetetic Apparatchik (2006-04-05 9:12 am)

Yep, X-over driver would be good.

Planing on having a LAN in the dorms this Session, can't wait to see what everyone says when I'm playing CS (and winning) on a Mac!

SpacemanSpiff wrote:

But I am still wondering:  Why aren't people trying to go the other way?  Tiger on a BIOS Box?

They have, and they already succeeded. Old news.

As for Boot Camp, I am genuinely afraid for the survival of the Mac platform now. Apple itself providing a solution for this really adds credence to the argument that 3rd parties might see no reason to make or continue to make a Mac version. I've got a very bad feeling about this, and I didn't agree with those people until now. Time will tell, i guess, but I wish Apple would have continued to take a more neutral position (ie. not stopping it, but not supporting it either).

Last edited by Macskeeball (2006-04-05 9:49 am)

Macskeeball wrote:

SpacemanSpiff wrote:

But I am still wondering:  Why aren't people trying to go the other way?  Tiger on a BIOS Box?

They have, and they already succeeded. Old news.

As for Boot Camp, I am genuinely afraid for the survival of the Mac platform now. Apple themself providing a solution for this really adds credence to the argument that 3rd parties might see no reason to make or continue to make a Mac version. I've got a very bad feeling about this, and I didn't agree with those people until now. Time will tell, i guess, but I wishh Apple would have continued to take a more neutral position (ie. not stopping it, but not supporting it either).

It will be a feature of the next version of the Mac OS.  So in order to gain this functionality, you have to buy OS X.

Nice move, Apple!

Macskeeball wrote:

SpacemanSpiff wrote:

But I am still wondering:  Why aren't people trying to go the other way?  Tiger on a BIOS Box?

They have, and they already succeeded. Old news.

As for Boot Camp, I am genuinely afraid for the survival of the Mac platform now. Apple themself providing a solution for this really adds credence to the argument that 3rd parties might see no reason to make or continue to make a Mac version. I've got a very bad feeling about this, and I didn't agree with those people until now. Time will tell, i guess, but I wishh Apple would have continued to take a more neutral position (ie. not stopping it, but not supporting it either).

Well not with any version since the developer ones...

Also I know that feeling. It could be a very bad decision, up there with the Cube and Pippin! However, I think (and hope) developers will see this as a sign such that Apple is just supporting a Legacy OS not that they are breaking into the Windows market. (It certainly is worded that way on the BootCamp site.)


Either way, any good developer knows OS X is where the party's as. Vista is dead, Linux is making great strides but isn't there yet, Solaris, well, who knows. (I realise it is a very good enterprise OS, just not one for the average personal computer.)

I share the same concern.  It is a very valid concern.  I just also see that if people want to do this, they have to buy OS X, so more copies of OS X go out, so the user base technically increases.

On top of it all, I can't see everyone doing this.  I personally don't have a real need, and I wouldn't want to sacrifice the HD space.  Other users I'm sure don't want to switch from Windows to have the same problems (viruses, spyware, etc.) - why else would they be switching?

Then there are others who don't handle using 2 different UIs very well.  It happens more than most would think.

Plus you also have to reboot to take advantage of Windows, so it can be seen as a "hassle" to a lot of people - look at the number of people who don't want to ruin their "uptime."

I don't see it as the end, I just see it as another reason to buy a Mac and a helpful tool for switchers who complain "I have to buy all new software."

Blinding Flash of the Obvious:  Apple is a hardware company.  Yes, yes they have some software titles but for the most part they make their money when they sell a machine.

Looks like they will sell a few more machines now.

test wrote:

Too bad the partitioning dingus almost certainly will never work on PPC Macs.

There's always 3rd party solutions.

Sure, they'll definitely be a temporary increase in sales. What happens after that is less clear. Certain industries in Mac software will suffer very badly ; I don't see a reason for buying another game port, ever again. I'd love to run games under Mac OS X. However the majority of ports aren't Mac applications beyond the fact that they run in OS X (Cmd-Q = Quit. Cmd-S = Save. Cmd-W/H = Disappear!) and don't work 'as properly' as the PC version (I'm currently trying to make a Mac distrobution of Cold War Crisis mod for Generals:Zero Hour and the mod support for ZH is smurf).

If Apple becomes purely a hardware company – that's a great OS we just lost decent development for. Hell, even if OS X was open-sourced, that's any UI cohesiveness (yeah, it's not always perfect now) or design intelligence gone down the drain.

Last edited by Zetetic Apparatchik (2006-04-05 9:55 am)