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Steyr AUG wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

Sassy, drop the free drugs and a crash pad for anyone that wants them and I generally go along. If you want to help those with a death wish using my taxes I have cheaper options.

It's a matter of choice = deciding to go into rehab and and rebuilding one's life or putting the determined addict out of misery; and, taking the profit out of the drug business. A twofer. Those people who opt for either choice will take the profit out of the drug business. Making the choice a 'free' of charge one, will cost the taxpayers much less than 'a war on drugs' (an asinine label if ever I've seen one).

It may also help to take the stigma out of being an addict because in either choice, it is the addict who decides what to do with his/her life. IOW, a self-determined, voluntary act of free will to help one's self rather than prey on the community for sustenance with an illegal act. Most addicts are capable of making such a choice even under the influence or there would be none who recover.

I think allowing an addict the privilege to choose rehab or death, if he chooses, is as humane as expecting the soldier to give his life to do so if the Commander in Chief says so simply because s/he 'volunteered' to serve.

Somehow the government essentially saying "we know you feel like your addiciton is hopeless and there is no way out, we will give you the option to keep being stuck on the object that is killing you" doesnt sound right.

[Reagan] Well, there he goes again... [/Reagan]

It doesn't sound right because you are stating an extreme, rather straw-mannish, version.

Alcohol is addictive and kills people. You gonna claim that the gov is encouraging suicide by letting it stay legal?

Last edited by user (2006-04-28 8:38 am)

I would be against giving out the drugs free because as much as I do not think government should be adding consequences other than the natural ones that go with drug use I don't think they should remove any either.
Part of the misery of addiction is the pain of running out and without that natural consequence an addict is less likely to hit that point of awaking that recovery requires.

Steyr AUG wrote:

Sassy wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

Sassy, drop the free drugs and a crash pad for anyone that wants them and I generally go along. If you want to help those with a death wish using my taxes I have cheaper options.

It's a matter of choice = deciding to go into rehab and and rebuilding one's life or putting the determined addict out of misery; and, taking the profit out of the drug business. A twofer. Those people who opt for either choice will take the profit out of the drug business. Making the choice a 'free' of charge one, will cost the taxpayers much less than 'a war on drugs' (an asinine label if ever I've seen one).

It may also help to take the stigma out of being an addict because in either choice, it is the addict who decides what to do with his/her life. IOW, a self-determined, voluntary act of free will to help one's self rather than prey on the community for sustenance with an illegal act. Most addicts are capable of making such a choice even under the influence or there would be none who recover.

I think allowing an addict the privilege to choose rehab or death, if he chooses, is as humane as expecting the soldier to give his life to do so if the Commander in Chief says so simply because s/he 'volunteered' to serve.

Somehow the government essentially saying "we know you feel like your addiction is hopeless and there is no way out, we will give you the option to keep being stuck on the object that is killing you" doesn't sound right.

That's your comment not mine, so why did you use quotes?

You missed/ignored the point anyway. I can't say all, but it's common knowledge that most addicted people are well aware of their addiction and would opt for treatment if it was available and especially if it is free. Those addicts that opt for the 2nd alternative would, at least, have the dignity of making a choice to get well or to choose death.

Taking the stigma out of addiction is also a plus. If it is treated as a disease, it will in time, be an incentive to get treatment and an awareness not to start -- like cigarettes and tobacco.

As for alcohol, most people who use it are not likely to be addicted. Just as there seems to be no reason to think that those who are casual users of pot would want something stronger. Some may, most would not. Some people abuse coffee. Doesn't mean everyone will. There is no 100% solution.

Well, we just got that druggie Rush, according to CNN.

Cyberpawz wrote:

Now to get this topic back on track...

http://www.cyberpawz.com/crap/immigration.jpg

So who is not working Monday to support the illegal aliens? And who agrees with the poster?

You wanna get the thread back on topic? Everybody answered all the stupid questions you asked when you started this thread. Now you go back and answer the questions people asked you before you abandoned the thread.

I guess tacos are out for dinner tomorrow.

Soft tacos with carnitas are what I eat as do my illegal Mexican immigrant friends.

Pariah wrote:

bedstuy wrote:

Soft tacos with carnitas are what I eat as do my illegal Mexican immigrant friends.

You pick up the tab?

Actually the one I go with makes decent money.  Always has cash not to mention he works full time AND goes to college.  His English is pretty much 95% fluent now too.  Then again he married an American girl.

It's the Ricans that are always unemployed.  4 million inhabitants in a 100 year old permanent United States welfare colony.

Last edited by bedstuy (2006-04-29 3:18 pm)

Proper nouns usually are.

Cyberpawz wrote:

Robert B. wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

Now to get this topic back on track...

http://www.cyberpawz.com/crap/immigration.jpg

So who is not working Monday to support the illegal aliens? And who agrees with the poster?

You wanna get the thread back on topic? Everybody answered all the stupid questions you asked when you started this thread. Now you go back and answer the questions people asked you before you abandoned the thread.

Ahh, so too high and mighty to answer... right I'll remember that. And I didn't abandon the topic, I was watching with amused interest the cannon fodder that was being thrown around, and didn't want to interrupt the malay by responding to people who don't care what my answers are.

Not to mention the server crashed and most of what I posted was lost, so I wasn't going to go back and re-type it.

excuses, excuses

I'll play along with your little game: a) I took monday off of work because I was out of town over the weekend. b) In regards to the poster, I support immigration.

There. I answered your questions. Now, before you ask anything more, YOU go back and answer every one of the questions people asked you before you abandoned the thread. Or, are you "too high and mighty to answer," hmm?

Last edited by Robert B. (2006-05-01 8:00 pm)

Cyberpawz wrote:

Ahh, so too high and mighty to answer... right I'll remember that. And I didn't abandon the topic, I was watching with amused interest the cannon fodder that was being thrown around, and didn't want to interrupt the malay by responding to people who don't care what my answers are.

Not to mention the server crashed and most of what I posted was lost, so I wasn't going to go back and re-type it.

I'm not sure it's actually possible to throw cannon fodder around, unless it's the kind made of that special several first last straw, and it's never a good idea to interrupt Malays but were you sitting back watching with amused interest or were you having trouble with your server?