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Robert B. wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

Metacell wrote:

Hey, you're right. No reason to do anything here in the USA either!!

So where does it go after it collapses?  Will we also disappear into a magic vortex once we've 'taken care' of ourselves?

Difference between the US and Mexico, the government in Mexico controls everything completely, no questions asked.  In the US the people ultimately have the control...

"the government in Mexico controls everything completely, no questions asked' ?

Have you ever even been to Mexico? You have no idea what the hell you are talking about, do you?

"the people ultimately have the control" ?

Have you ever even been to the USA? You have no idea what the hell you are talking about, do you?

Sassy wrote:

Traveling in Mexico can be very scary. Before the boys grew up, we took a trip to Mexico City, rented a car and drove up to Taxco in the mountains. Spent about a week, and on our way back we were caught in a narrow mountain road block by a group of armed, rag-tag 'soldiers.' There were about 5 or 6 autos and a truck with wicker chairs ahead of us. We brought up the tail end. Finally, we reached the forward road block.

All the 'soldiers,' about 10 or so, had rifles. We don't speak Spanish, but their sign language was pretty explicit. They signaled to my husband to get out of the car. They hadn't done that with any of the autos ahead of us. He got out and I got scared. He was motioned to open the car trunk. He did. All that was in there was our luggage as we were headed back to Mexico City to the airport and our departure back to the States.

I stayed in the front seat trying to see what was happening through the side view mirror. The boys couldn't see anything because the trunk lid was open. I couldn't hear or see much either. The silence was driving me crazy. There was a soldier standing next to the door on my side of the car. He was watching me and what was going on at the back of the car. Finally, I spoke to him. He motioned for me to get out of the car. I did. I looked behind the car. One soldier was holding a rifle on my husband while the other was rummaging in the trunk. I thought he was going to steal something. That made me angry.

At that I marched to the rear of the car shouting for the rummage thief to get out of our stuff. The 'thief' looked up at me rather surprised. I kept ranting at him, telling him we were on our way to the airport and we were already late. My husband and the 'thief' stood there, dumbfounded, at my audacity. Usually, I'm usually pretty cool and friendly. But, the thought of that guy going through our stuff infuriated me. I stood there hands on hips and told him to get out of our stuff.

When I stopped to catch my breath, the 'thief' smiled at me and motioned for both of us to get back into the car. We did and glad to do so. They even made sure we rolled the windows up when we left. No problem.

When we arrived at the airport, I asked the ticketing agent what the problem was. He said the so-called soldiers were probably looking for contraband. That made sense. Never thought about that.

Anyway, it's a wonder those guys didn't flat out shoot all four of us. They could have and no one would have been the wiser. We were lucky. Just the same, it was a scary incident. We knew that 'gringos' sometimes disappeared in various parts of Mexico. It can be very dangerous.

Have you figured out yet that the so-called soldiers felt sorry for your husband for having such a SASSY wife and decided to let him live, just for sport?

HA! HA! HA! HA! I'm sorry ... it's all I can figure. You saved your whole family just by being ... Sassy.

Cyberpawz wrote:

dvpierce wrote:

Robert B. wrote:

"the government in Mexico controls everything completely, no questions asked' ?

Have you ever even been to Mexico? You have no idea what the hell you are talking about, do you?

"the people ultimately have the control" ?

Have you ever even been to the USA? You have no idea what the hell you are talking about, do you?

Ummm... I've lived in the US since day one...being born here has that tricky bit about living in the US... how about you?

And yes the people if the US have the ultimate control over the government, we vote in those who are in congress, and the president's seat... and we can take them out with a vote, or a statement as well, but it can only be done so if everyone or a majority of people stand together and demand change.

Then demand some already. As far as I know, you have advocated the status quo for the U.S. more than almost everyone who lurks here.

Cyberpawz wrote:

And yes the people if the US have the ultimate control over the government, we vote in those who are in congress, and the president's seat... and we can take them out with a vote, or a statement as well, but it can only be done so if everyone or a majority of people stand together and demand change.

Do Mexicans not have a vote?

Robert B. wrote:

What exactly is the rate of corruption in Mexico?

Seven.

Metacell wrote:

Possibly they have some legal structures that prevent their votes from accurately representing the will of the people.  Or perhaps their is some kind of cronyism going on in the courts, under the influence of executive money.

I can't imagine such a situation myself, living in a completely representative democracy such as the USA.

Yeah, no sarcasm from you.

Cyberpawz wrote:

the government in Mexico controls everything completely, no questions asked.

I'd ask for a link but I figure that would be too easy.

Hank Rearden wrote:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed74.html

On the benefits of expatriation to Mexico

For what it’s worth, the (Mexico) seems to appeal powerfully to those who want to be left the hell alone. The United States tries to control your every move, thought, and minute. Here in Mexico, unless you break a major law or do something awesomely stupid, the government isn’t much interested in you. This lack of interest is perhaps government’s greatest virtue.

...but I thought the government controlled EVERYTHING in Mexico?

Hank Rearden wrote:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed74.html

On the benefits of expatriation to Mexico

For what it’s worth, the (Mexico) seems to appeal powerfully to those who want to be left the hell alone. The United States tries to control your every move, thought, and minute. Here in Mexico, unless you break a major law or do something awesomely stupid, the government isn’t much interested in you. This lack of interest is perhaps government’s greatest virtue.

This section is an informative read:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed93.html

Employment “rights”? Why do Americans think they have a right to work in Mexico? As in most countries you need to get a work permit, and here they tend not to be issued if you are going to take work away from a Mexican. Perversely, Mexico does not believe that it exists to employ gringos. Gosh.

Politics? No, you may not engage in politics. I am not sure why Americans think they should be permitted to, but I know why Mexicans think that they should not. In the Yankee enclaves, they would take over and run things as they wanted, not as Mexicans want. They would want rules, regulations, correct attitudes, laws, laws, laws. They would want to instruct Mexico. There would be encampments of activists demonstrating in Chiapas. (When the US has solved its own ethnic problems, then perhaps it might make polite suggestions to others. Day after tomorrow, you think?) And a naturalized American is just an American with a different piece of paper in his pocket: Same attitudes, culture, and lack of respect for other countries.

iBubba wrote:

Welcome to the smoke screen, ladies and gents. Pawzies has distracted you all. Once again.

The lad has a bright future in the modern Republican Party.

iBubba wrote:

Welcome to the smoke screen, ladies and gents. Pawzies has distracted you all. Once again.

Well, excuuuuuuuuuse us!

resedit wrote:

JakeTheTall wrote:

Erm...but, like, I live and am a citizen of America, not Mexico.

Its not just the migrants that are treated poorly by the police and courts in Mexico...most the police and courts in Mexico are pretty dodgy.

Plus, who cares what they're doing in Mexico ?

A lot of people here cared what they're doing in France and Germany etc. when we were going to war ...

I don't understand why people lump Germany into the "anti-freedom, not helping in Iraq crowd"...but ignore Canada.

Germany is pretty pacifist now.  I say let them stay that way.  If they sent tanks to Iraq, who knows if they would have stopped even after they grabbed Syria, Armenia, Georgia, and parts of Iran (after the little stuff in Iraq).