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#1 2006-04-22 12:10 pm

tony-h
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Calling all Boot Camp users

How is  it working? Any major bugs?
I'm going to get a Mini and have one Win..Doh's app to run. VPC runs it fine on my old G4, so hopefully BC wiill handle it OK. Just hate having to boot into windows. I may try Parrells.


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#2 2006-04-22 12:20 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

And, how about graphics cards?  Can you play games well w/bootcamp?


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#3 2006-04-22 12:34 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

Bootcamp allows you to load XP natively with native drivers.

From all accounts, games are either just as fast or faster in XP than on OS X. (WoW being the most notable... almost twice as fast on the iMac in XP)

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#4 2006-04-22 2:42 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

you cant play games on the mini, but windows runs fine with boot camp.


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#5 2006-04-22 4:20 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

How about booting on the mini? fast, slow? I'll be booting between them often.


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#6 2006-04-22 4:24 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

just about a normal boot time, 1 min or 2 shrug

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#7 2006-04-22 8:54 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

NoExit wrote:

just about a normal boot time, 1 min or 2 shrug

That's kinda long, for either Windows or OS X.


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#8 2006-04-23 2:33 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

mo' ron wrote:

NoExit wrote:

just about a normal boot time, 1 min or 2 shrug

That's kinda long, for either Windows or OS X.

well iv never timed it so i cant be 100% sure, but its less than 1 or 2 mins wink and i need sleep wink


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#9 2006-04-24 8:15 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

I pulled the trigger the Mini is on it's way. Upgraded memory and HDD. Also, a Mini stackable HDD enclosure from OWC.
Hope to hell it works better than VPC, I think I'll try Parallels first.


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#10 2006-04-25 12:14 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

NoExit wrote:

you cant play games on the mini, but windows runs fine with boot camp.

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#11 2006-04-25 12:52 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

Yes, you can play games.  You can play them pretty well depending on what you have.

Boot camp was simple.  I think XP loads and is ready to go in about 30 seconds.


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#12 2006-04-25 3:36 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

you cant play games on a mini shrug


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#13 2006-04-25 4:58 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

Solitare works just fine on a mini.


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#14 2006-04-25 7:07 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

Because computer games were just invented this year, no computer from before that will run them.


This whole "you have to have the latest hardware for games" cracks me up.  I was playing computer games in the mid 80's - when the mini would have been a supercomputer. 

If these alleged gamers would phrase it as  you have to have X hardware to run Y game then they'd have a point.  I'd still think they were posting on the wrong forum, but they'd have a point.


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#15 2006-04-25 2:06 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

and are we still playing those 1980 games now ?


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#16 2006-04-25 3:03 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

Since I just wrote Space Invaders and Pong, yes. At least I do.


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#17 2006-04-26 11:51 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

NoExit wrote:

you cant play games on a mini shrug

I guess those TRON 2.0, UT2004, K.O.T.O.R, Neverwinter Nights, H.A.L.O., DOOM3, and AVP episodes I had we're just a dream.

Of course, those were with a G4 mac mini.  Maybe you really can't play games on the gfx-less intel mini.  But somehow I doubt it.


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#18 2006-04-27 12:12 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

XP under Boot Camp is VERY fast on my 2ghz MacBook Pro. Games I've tried so far rock, although I had to turn down the resolution and graphic detail a bit on Oblivion.

Blender under XP (yeah, I know they make a Mac version-just wanted to try it) works great, but there's a text anomaly with some of the menus. Not sure what's going on there.

Make sure you download the FREE anti-virus software AVG Free as soon as you get XP installed. It's updated every day, sometimes several times a day. Very nice anti-virus kit.

Firefox works great so far on my own site. When I use firefox on my 3ghz PC, it sometimes doesn't render the ad banner.

Boot time was much faster than on my  3ghz PC. XP's boot time was approximately 27 seconds on MacBook Pro, over a minute on my 3ghz PC.

Guild Wars was incredibly smooth at highest rez with all detail turned on.

The best thing for me so far-using Oblivion's level editor to make my own levels. That's the primary reason I built a real PC in the first place-to do game mods. Now, I can do it all on the Mac, well, in XP on the Mac anyway. smile

Next game I'm going to install is Half-Life 2. If you have never played it, you're in for a treat. I've finished it twice so far on the PC, and look forward to playing it on my Mac running XP.

Want to try Unreal's Editor and Half Life 2's editor next. Oh, and NeverWinter Nights 2's editor, and Doom 3's editor, and...

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#19 2006-04-27 12:17 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

tony-h wrote:

I pulled the trigger the Mini is on it's way. Upgraded memory and HDD. Also, a Mini stackable HDD enclosure from OWC.
Hope to hell it works better than VPC, I think I'll try Parallels first.

Parallels is amazingly fast-but not for 3D graphics. They haven't, uh, done the 3D graphics part yet, so no games or 3D programs in XP thru Parallels.

Check out this pic of me running 4 operating systems using Parallels Workstation:

http://www.lyzrdstomp.com/images/stories/3os_640.jpg

Fun geeky stuff. I just hope they make the 3D routines sometimes soon. Otherwise, it's Boot Camp for me all the way.

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#20 2006-04-27 9:01 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

ivanjs - did you have to boot various OSes in a certain sequence?  I've seen reports that booting numerous OSes on Parallels only works in a certain order.


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#21 2006-04-28 7:08 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

MacBoy4139 wrote:

ivanjs - did you have to boot various OSes in a certain sequence?  I've seen reports that booting numerous OSes on Parallels only works in a certain order.

Didn't notice that-I just started clicking open and they started booting. I'll try to test that this weekend.

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#22 2006-04-28 8:13 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

MacBoy4139 wrote:

ivanjs - did you have to boot various OSes in a certain sequence?  I've seen reports that booting numerous OSes on Parallels only works in a certain order.

Wonder why.


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#23 2006-04-28 9:04 am

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

resedit wrote:

MacBoy4139 wrote:

ivanjs - did you have to boot various OSes in a certain sequence?  I've seen reports that booting numerous OSes on Parallels only works in a certain order.

Wonder why.

To be honest, I don't know.  I just read it on someone's blog that they were having trouble with Parallels and could only boot certain OSes in a certain sequence.  Otherwise the whole thing would crash.

It was on www.macworld.com somewhere.


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#24 2006-04-28 2:18 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

I use bootcamp and everything works great except for a couple things

When I plug in headphones and optical cable to my Macbook, and the internal speakers keep playing.

Sometimes when I adjust the brightness using the taskbar slider, Windows crashes.

Back-lit sensors on my Macbook are in active on the Windows side.

And the F-keys that are supposed to adjust the volume and stuff for the Mac OS don't work in Windows but thats no big deal.

I hope they fix the other problems when the final version comes out. I also wish they would allow me to install Windows on an external drive too. Splitting up a 100 Gig HD for 2 OSes kinda sux. Especially when I want Mac OS to have more room than Windows but Windows has all the games that take up much of that space.

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#25 2006-04-28 3:37 pm

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Re: Calling all Boot Camp users

ReallyReallyLong LongName wrote:

I use bootcamp and everything works great except for a couple things

When I plug in headphones and optical cable to my Macbook, and the internal speakers keep playing.

Sometimes when I adjust the brightness using the taskbar slider, Windows crashes.

Back-lit sensors on my Macbook are in active on the Windows side.

And the F-keys that are supposed to adjust the volume and stuff for the Mac OS don't work in Windows but thats no big deal.

I hope they fix the other problems when the final version comes out. I also wish they would allow me to install Windows on an external drive too. Splitting up a 100 Gig HD for 2 OSes kinda sux. Especially when I want Mac OS to have more room than Windows but Windows has all the games that take up much of that space.

Most of your problems were documented by Apple when they released Boot Camp and currently Windows doesn't support running Windows on an External drive.


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