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bedstuy wrote:

oh... and don't forget Hookergate (aka Watergate II)

I wonder if any of those people had any second thoughts as they went into the Watergate Hotel.

pawz, you're turning into a grouch!   Why are you so partisan? If you don't like politicians, how can you defend the President so wholeheartedly when even the NeoCons are complaining about his decisions. And, if you don't like whining, how can you defend the President's little "I'm the Decider" speech? Talk about a thin skin. Poor sport! He's the President. All President's sit on a hot seat -- and should. Personally, I think this one has had a very smooth ride ride for 5 years and only now is he getting the flack he deserves.

I will say this about him: At the White House Correspondents' Dinner Saturday night, he was very entertaining with his look-a-like. It was worthy of Saturday Night Live and the best spot of the evening.

Anyway, it is obvious you are disappointed with the Republicans and the conservatives. We all are. They haven't exactly been exemplary in their leadership, especially, when they came into office using 'values' and 'integrity' as their hallmark for the party.

My mother was always a Democrat, but a favorite uncle of mine was a Republican. So was I, until Reagan, whom I supported against Carter, but was very disappointed with his performance as President. Being a 'nice guy' just isn't enough to carry the load it takes to be the leader of the free world; but, even he was better than the one we have now. Not much, but better, especially his jokes. He had good writers and an entertaining wit. And, I never heard him whine, in spite of the scandal of Ollie North and Bill Casey and the 'basement whitehouse.'

So, you aren't the only one who finds politicians distasteful. Most of us do. Why do you think we're on this forum? So, chill a little. 

Americans are not 'stupid.' They're busy trying to stay ahead of the curve and send their kids to a decent school. That takes time and money which seems to be shrinking by the hour if not the second. The early baby boomers turn 60 this year. You ain't seen nothin' yet!

ShnickyShnack wrote:

D'Eyncourt wrote:

bedstuy wrote:

oh... and don't forget Hookergate (aka Watergate II)

I wonder if any of those people had any second thoughts as they went into the Watergate Hotel.

Hell, you'd think most politicians would avoid the place like the plague, but no, a bunch of them live there.

It's still a great place.  Awesome building.  Perfect location on the Potomac sandwiched in between the Kennedy Center and all the restaurants in Georgetown where "the elite sup."  Plus IIRC there's a Chenel and Hermes boutique inside.  Been years since I was in the hotel.

bedstuy wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

D'Eyncourt wrote:

I wonder if any of those people had any second thoughts as they went into the Watergate Hotel.

Hell, you'd think most politicians would avoid the place like the plague, but no, a bunch of them live there.

It's still a great place.  Awesome building.  Perfect location on the Potomac sandwiched in between the Kennedy Center and all the restaurants in Georgetown where "the elite sup."  Plus IIRC there's a Chenel and Hermes boutique inside.  Been years since I was in the hotel.

I do not want to know what you were doing there and who you were doing it with.

Cyberpawz wrote:

isaly wrote:

so. . . quit yer b!tchin' and DO something, fer chrissake. . .

I do, but unthankfully newspapers don't apologize for their biased views....

What the... "Biased views"?? What in hell's name is "biased views" about using the suffix "-gate"???!?!??

That makes zero sense.

Sassy wrote:

Americans are not 'stupid.' They're busy trying to stay ahead of the curve and send their kids to a decent school. That takes time and money which seems to be shrinking by the hour if not the second. The early baby boomers turn 60 this year. You ain't seen nothin' yet!

It makes you feel better if you call everyone else who isnt you stupid or sheep.

Sassy wrote:

pawz, you're turning into a grouch!   Why are you so partisan? If you don't like politicians, how can you defend the President so wholeheartedly when even the NeoCons are complaining about his decisions. And, if you don't like whining, how can you defend the President's little "I'm the Decider" speech? Talk about a thin skin. Poor sport! He's the President. All President's sit on a hot seat -- and should. Personally, I think this one has had a very smooth ride ride for 5 years and only now is he getting the flack he deserves.

Actually I don't support the president in a lot of his decisions, I personally think he should be the type of president that should be seen and not heard in public... every time he opens his mouth he sounds like he couldn't rub two brain cells together to make a coherent thought.

This president has had a tough time for quite some time actually since almost day one after he got into office the first time... There have been very few presidents that have had this kind of smurf thrown at them and still smell good after the fact.

The problem is that the congress and politics in all forms have become too personal.  You can't be a nasty SOB at work and then share a beer with your colleagues any more... that just doesn't happen... not like it use to. 

Sassy wrote:

I will say this about him: At the White House Correspondents' Dinner Saturday night, he was very entertaining with his look-a-like. It was worthy of Saturday Night Live and the best spot of the evening.

Bout the only good thing you could say about him there I think really.

Sassy wrote:

Anyway, it is obvious you are disappointed with the Republicans and the conservatives. We all are. They haven't exactly been exemplary in their leadership, especially, when they came into office using 'values' and 'integrity' as their hallmark for the party.

The problem isn't just that, the problem is that I feel this country has lost its way... Iraq was a mistake... not in the sense of going in, but we went in for the wrong reasons, the problem is that we went in there caring what the enemy thought about us.  You don't win wars worrying about how the enemy feels about you attacking them.

This country as a whole has lost its way, we are more worried about what the other side is going to do, how they are going to screw us over, and how they are going to make it a worse place for us to live. Bi-partisan endeavors are dead, I don't care what anyone says, it will never exist the same way it has in the past as long as we stay the way we are going now.

This country has to stop being to soft, it has to stop worrying about what other countries think about it. This country has to start re-building its infrastructure, it needs to be come a power again... and we won't do it by pandering to the international community.

First thing we need to do is close our borders till we can get the illegal immigration problems taken care of...

Sassy wrote:

My mother was always a Democrat, but a favorite uncle of mine was a Republican. So was I, until Reagan, whom I supported against Carter, but was very disappointed with his performance as President. Being a 'nice guy' just isn't enough to carry the load it takes to be the leader of the free world; but, even he was better than the one we have now. Not much, but better, especially his jokes. He had good writers and an entertaining wit. And, I never heard him whine, in spite of the scandal of Ollie North and Bill Casey and the 'basement whitehouse.'

The thing with Reagan is that everyone that could hated him... which I can understand to some extent... but the thing is that he was also the one person that helped bring the economy back...it took a long time for it to show it's face but it did, during the Clinton years... it was one of the reasons Clinton could do what he did, which was nothing... We still should of been riding that wave of good economic boom, but Clinton did nothing to keep it going... except raise taxes...

That again is here nor there, it is the past for now...

Sassy wrote:

So, you aren't the only one who finds politicians distasteful. Most of us do. Why do you think we're on this forum? So, chill a little. 

I'd love to, but I am starting to find that Human species is not worth saving any more... we can save the whales, we can save the dolphins... but all isn't worth crap unless we can save ourselves.

Sassy wrote:

Americans are not 'stupid.' They're busy trying to stay ahead of the curve and send their kids to a decent school. That takes time and money which seems to be shrinking by the hour if not the second. The early baby boomers turn 60 this year. You ain't seen nothin' yet!

I've already seen what the future holds, and right now the US is past its golden era... unless we get things under control...we are going to quickly find ourselves in the same position as an old tiger without any teeth...

Onthebeach wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

KingFred wrote:

What the... "Biased views"?? What in hell's name is "biased views" about using the suffix "-gate"???!?!??

That makes zero sense.

It has been proven in more than one case that the written press and the TV reporters are more than just a tad bit liberal... and I don't mean in the way that liberal in how much they report, but on how they report things...

Proven? Really? You'll no doubt point us the direction of the independent body that proved it......

Pick up your local newspaper, and you'll see with your own two eyes... otherwise I'll provide links if I have to...

[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:

forgot about contragate and whitewatergate (wwg went exactly no where, which is why we wound up at lewinskigate. a gate that the liberal press no doubt helped to open wide, hmmmmm?)

cp is lashing out because he can't figger out how a blindly trusting righteous populous could have been duped so completely into voting for the "compassionate conservative."

That last bit is simple... they picked at the time what they thought was the lesser of two evils...

I'd like to see a candidate where we don't have to make that decision... we'd pick him because he is a good candidate....

Bush is a RINO, and Kerry is a DINO...

Cyberpawz wrote:

KingFred wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

I do, but unthankfully newspapers don't apologize for their biased views....

What the... "Biased views"?? What in hell's name is "biased views" about using the suffix "-gate"???!?!??

That makes zero sense.

It has been proven in more than one case that the written press and the TV reporters are more than just a tad bit liberal... and I don't mean in the way that liberal in how much they report, but on how they report things...

OK, let's go over this again, since you seem to be missing the point of your own thread.

You: Why can't they use something more clever than tacking "gate" at the end of everything?! grumble grumble..
isaly: "quit yer bitchin' and do something, fer chrissake" - a return to YOUR OWN demand from another thread
You: "I do, but unthankfully newspapers don't apologize for their biased views...."
KingFred: "What the... "Biased views"?? What in hell's name is "biased views" about using the suffix "-gate"???!?!?? That makes zero sense."
You: It has been proven (but i won't actually show this "proof") that the press is liberal. (Which completely fails to answer the question posed.)

You made zero sense. And now you're well into the negatives.

So, other than claiming the press is liberal (how that's even relevant to this, I don't know), what are YOU going to do about this horrendous use of the suffix 'gate' that you're bitching about in your first post? And please don't derail your own thread. You are discussing '__gate', not 'the liberal press'. Unless you can somehow link how using '__gate' is a liberal conspiracy of some sort.

KingFred wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

KingFred wrote:

What the... "Biased views"?? What in hell's name is "biased views" about using the suffix "-gate"???!?!??

That makes zero sense.

It has been proven in more than one case that the written press and the TV reporters are more than just a tad bit liberal... and I don't mean in the way that liberal in how much they report, but on how they report things...

OK, let's go over this again, since you seem to be missing the point of your own thread.

You: Why can't they use something more clever than tacking "gate" at the end of everything?! grumble grumble..
isaly: "quit yer bitchin' and do something, fer chrissake" - a return to YOUR OWN demand from another thread
You: "I do, but unthankfully newspapers don't apologize for their biased views...."
KingFred: "What the... "Biased views"?? What in hell's name is "biased views" about using the suffix "-gate"???!?!?? That makes zero sense."
You: It has been proven (but i won't actually show this "proof") that the press is liberal. (Which completely fails to answer the question posed.)

You made zero sense. And now you're well into the negatives.

So, other than claiming the press is liberal (how that's even relevant to this, I don't know), what are YOU going to do about this horrendous use of the suffix 'gate' that you're bitching about in your first post? And please don't derail your own thread. You are discussing '__gate', not 'the liberal press'. Unless you can somehow link how using '__gate' is a liberal conspiracy of some sort.

You know, no one is making you post to my topics.

And I said that all you need to do is look at some of the newspapers to find the proof... otherwise if asked I would provide links... which you haven't done. Instead you start insulting me...

Not a nice way to ask.

KingFred wrote:

I wans't freakin' asking because I don't particularly care since it's IRRELEVANT TO THE TOPIC.

And YES, someone DID ask that you post your "proof", you just ignored it:

Onthebeach wrote:

Proven? Really? You'll no doubt point us the direction of the independent body that proved it......

So I'll ask once more since you seem to be unable to comprehend the point:

You are grumbling about the use of the term "__gate" and how unclever it is.
isaly retorts your own admonition to people that they (you, now) should quit whining and do something.
You respond with the astounding logic leap that the press is liberal.

You STILL can't seem to explain how:

A) using the suffix "gate"
and
B) the press is "liberal" ('proven' or not)

have anything - ANYTHING - to do with each other.

I'd say calm down or you are going to have a heart attack, but I really don't care if you do or don't because you can't get a grip on your own temper... Of course you are posting in a topic that you don't have to... instead of ignoring it you have to post in it.  You know I think you are a Masochist and enjoy doing things to piss yourself off.

Actually I never said that people should do anything about it, I said that the powers that be should be more creative, and stop falling back on stupid antics that make headlines...

And that the people of the US are too stupid to realize that the news is sensationalizing everything just to have people watch. 

Oh and for Onthebeach's request, I already came out with a response, that you didn't like, so instead you decided to attack me personally... not very smart.

Tallgeese wrote:

Your response was devoid of content, as usual.

And here is another Masochist... boy they are coming in droves... mayhap I should get my paddle out and start spanking you boys since it seems you can't stay away from painful conversations or topics.

Either that or you can do two things...

1. Stop posting to my topics, and ignore them, and making them personal attacks on me.
2. Actually ask questions that haven't been answered, or bring up why I should answer a question that I already have...

So far neither of you have done so, and neither of you are worth responding to any more since all either of you do is Troll in my topics.