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#1 2006-05-05 5:31 am

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Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Patrick Kennedy crashed his car at 3AM. There is wonder as to if there was preferential treatment and the police overlooked the fact he was drunk.

Kennedy claims the crash was caused by prescription drugs, Ambien and an anti-nausea medication. Now it was my understanding that driving under the influence was driving under the influence be it alcohol, drugs or prescribed medication. If it impairs your ability to drive, as Ambien clearly states on the bottle it does (do not operate machinery or car, pr something like that), then why wasn't he charged?

At the very least, after he failed the sobriety test, assuming he would have (he was said to be disoriented), then any normal citizen would have had to take a Breathalyzers  test , right?
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#2 2006-05-05 6:04 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Now over the air news casts are saying police smelled alcohol and he appeared intoxicated. Still no arrest, but instead, police drove him home!


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#3 2006-05-05 6:30 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Nothing new here. I'm not surprised.


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#4 2006-05-05 6:36 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

The Washington Post account is even more damning.

Sad yet hilarious.  I remember someone calling Patrick the "Fredo" of the Kennedys.  The excuse and everything else are so transparent, I laughed out loud when I read the paper.  But I guess he's going to get away with it (legally, anyway), because certain cops intervened and there was no sobriety test.

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#5 2006-05-05 6:56 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy...


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#6 2006-05-05 7:14 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Cyberpawz wrote:

They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy...

Why? Were the same cops involved? They must be getting on in years....perhaps they can't see too well.


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#7 2006-05-05 9:53 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Rich people have all the fun.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#8 2006-05-05 10:03 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Cyberpawz wrote:

They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy...

Would you please let that go?  Talk about beating a dead horse.

It has less to do with Ted Kennedy and a lot more to do with George Washington, and how many pictures of him the Kennedys have.

Leave politics out of this until it's proven.  Money talks so much louder than political influence.

All I can say is that if I crashed my car while under the influence, the cops wouldn't have brought me home.


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#9 2006-05-05 10:15 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Pithecanthropus wrote:

All I can say is that if I crashed my car while under the influence, the cops wouldn't have brought me home.

Sure they would have. To your new home. The one with the bars, and all those nice people who want to become your own personal proctologist.


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#10 2006-05-05 11:55 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Typical Kennedy-eastern-liberal-elite getting out of a serious DUI offense because of family connections...

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#11 2006-05-05 1:27 pm

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Cyberpawz wrote:

They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy...

The capitol police?  They responded to Teddy's accident? 

lol

Do try to keep up.


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#12 2006-05-05 4:51 pm

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

WASHINGTON - Rep. Patrick Kennedy (news, bio, voting record) said Friday he was entering treatment for addiction to prescription pain medication, a decision made after a highly publicized car crash near the Capitol that the congressman said he cannot recall.

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#13 2006-05-06 12:41 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Onthebeach wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy...

Why? Were the same cops involved? They must be getting on in years....perhaps they can't see too well.

Chappaquiddick anyone?

And if you don't get the corrilation, then perhaps you should think of it this way...

Teddy was pratically given a "get out of jail" card when the Chappaquiddick incident happened. I don't think they are going to arrest Patrick for a DUI.

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#14 2006-05-06 12:59 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

I'm sorry, did Pawz just say something?

I couldn't hear a word.


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#15 2006-05-06 1:15 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Cyberpawz wrote:

Chappaquiddick anyone?

And if you don't get the corrilation, then perhaps you should think of it this way...

Teddy was pratically given a "get out of jail" card when the Chappaquiddick incident happened. I don't think they are going to arrest Patrick for a DUI.

So...because of an incident that happened in a different place 30 years ago...what?


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#16 2006-05-06 1:27 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Cyberpawz wrote:

Onthebeach wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy...

Why? Were the same cops involved? They must be getting on in years....perhaps they can't see too well.

Chappaquiddick anyone?

And if you don't get the corrilation, then perhaps you should think of it this way...

Teddy was pratically given a "get out of jail" card when the Chappaquiddick incident happened. I don't think they are going to arrest Patrick for a DUI.

Why can you spell Chappaquiddick but not corrilation?


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#17 2006-05-06 5:38 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

So I read the first post and immediately thought "I'll bet anything pawz is gonna jump on this one to rant about Ted Kennedy. Again." A mere four posts later, quelle surprise... roll

"They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy"??! Once more: that is illogical. Do you actually think Ted Kennedy was the first rich/politically connected person to ever get special treatment? That he's somehow "the" precedent to this sort of response? That when they found they had a Kennedy at the wheel here they thought "Well, back in 1969, those OTHER cops went easy on Ted, so we must go easy on this Patrick dude, we have no choice"?

Here's a newsflash for ya, pawz: rich and connected people have been given the softer treatment for forever and will continue to do so, even if Chappaquiddick had never happened and Ted had driven home safely that night.

Your hate-filled obsession is ridiculous.


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#18 2006-05-06 8:56 am

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KingFred wrote:

So I read the first post and immediately thought "I'll bet anything pawz is gonna jump on this one to rant about Ted Kennedy. Again." A mere four posts later, quelle surprise... roll

"They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy"??! Once more: that is illogical. Do you actually think Ted Kennedy was the first rich/politically connected person to ever get special treatment? That he's somehow "the" precedent to this sort of response? That when they found they had a Kennedy at the wheel here they thought "Well, back in 1969, those OTHER cops went easy on Ted, so we must go easy on this Patrick dude, we have no choice"?

Here's a newsflash for ya, pawz: rich and connected people have been given the softer treatment for forever and will continue to do so, even if Chappaquiddick had never happened and Ted had driven home safely that night.

Your hate-filled obsession is ridiculous.

Ted Kennedy isn't the first, but the specialized treatment of his class, and his family should be the same as anyone else... you can't deny that.

There is a reason for them to go easy on Patrick, the simple response is that if they didn't people would start brining up why the police didn't do it when Teddy got drunk, or intoxicated, and actually killed someone in the process. The entire family has received favoritism treatment from the people of the US, ever since the only one of their family was ever worthy of holding the seat in the White House was assassinated, and even when he did, he wasn't exactly one of the best presidents either...

Want to talk about the difference between the classes, because there was a prime example of it.

And if Chappaquiddick never happened, then someone would be alive.

My hate-filled obsession as you call it isn't ridiculous, I don't let people forget the past.  Which too many people here seem to want to do. And as the old saying goes, if you forget the past, you are bound to repeat it...

Pithecanthropus wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy...

All I can say is that if I crashed my car while under the influence, the cops wouldn't have brought me home.

Exactly. The only reason they didn't do the same to Patrick is because of the family, I could almost guarantee it.

Police and never to let someone involved in a DUI free... and that is exactly what they did with Patrick.  Now if anyone here can tell me with a straight face that he was let go, and escorted back to his home while drunk, wasn't specialized treatment then I've lost all respect for the people here as a whole.


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#19 2006-05-06 9:50 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

The original poster's point is well taken. Any other last name would have had New England coverage; not a TODAY show segment.

Oh, didja hear about some CIA guy named, uh, Gossling?


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#20 2006-05-06 10:03 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

I believe Patrick Kennedy 100%.  Ambien and cough medicine will make you get up and do something for no apparent reason.
I can tell you this from experience, and that's the exact combination of drugs that I have witnessed.  Ambien should be better regulated.
It is a really addictive drug, and the manufacturers know this.  They will send you a 1 week free trial, and after that 1 week you will be hooked.

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#21 2006-05-06 10:12 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Fried Chicken wrote:

I believe Patrick Kennedy 100%.  Ambien and cough medicine will make you get up and do something for no apparent reason.
I can tell you this from experience, and that's the exact combination of drugs that I have witnessed.  Ambien should be better regulated.
It is a really addictive drug, and the manufacturers know this.  They will send you a 1 week free trial, and after that 1 week you will be hooked.

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Might be a good idea not to drive after taking it then eh?


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#22 2006-05-06 10:21 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

Steyr AUG wrote:

Fried Chicken wrote:

I believe Patrick Kennedy 100%.  Ambien and cough medicine will make you get up and do something for no apparent reason.
I can tell you this from experience, and that's the exact combination of drugs that I have witnessed.  Ambien should be better regulated.
It is a really addictive drug, and the manufacturers know this.  They will send you a 1 week free trial, and after that 1 week you will be hooked.

smurfing Ambien.

Might be a good idea not to drive after taking it then eh?

You don't get it, do you.  Patrick Kennedy said he needed to go to Congress to vote for something.  He wasn't in his conscious self while he did that.
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#23 2006-05-06 10:41 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

You ain't in your conscious self when you're smashed off booze either. We still hold people accountable (unless they're rich and well-connected).


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#24 2006-05-06 11:01 am

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Re: Patrick Kennedy - "I was not boozing when I crashed"

cyberpawz wrote:

kingfred wrote:

So I read the first post and immediately thought "I'll bet anything pawz is gonna jump on this one to rant about Ted Kennedy. Again." A mere four posts later, quelle surprise... roll
       
            "They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy"??!
       

        Once more: that is illogical. Do you actually think Ted Kennedy was the first rich/politically connected person to ever get special treatment? That he's somehow "the" precedent to this sort of response? That when they found they had a Kennedy at the wheel here they thought "Well, back in 1969, those OTHER cops went easy on Ted, so we must go easy on this Patrick dude, we have no choice"? Here's a newsflash for ya, pawz: rich and connected people have been given the softer treatment for forever and will continue to do so, even if Chappaquiddick had never happened and Ted had driven home safely that night. Your hate-filled obsession is ridiculous.

Ted Kennedy isn't the first, but the specialized treatment of his class, and his family should be the same as anyone else... you can't deny that.

Can you point to where I did deny that? Thanks.

There is a reason for them to go easy on Patrick, the simple response is that if they didn't people would start brining up why the police didn't do it when Teddy got drunk, or intoxicated, and actually killed someone in the process. The entire family has received favoritism treatment from the people of the US, ever since the only one of their family was ever worthy of holding the seat in the White House was assassinated, and even when he did, he wasn't exactly one of the best presidents either...

You gotta be kidding... they didn't go after Patrick because people would ask why they didn't go after Teddy? You can't be serious... You actually believe these cops, in 2006, are worried about people asking why a whole generation of cops back didn't do something?

Want to talk about the difference between the classes, because there was a prime example of it.

I believe I DID talk about class differences. Do I need to point that out to you? Or will you simply re-read what I posted and acknowledge that you are not reading too well? Hint: It's there in the third paragraph I wrote above.

And if Chappaquiddick never happened, then someone would be alive.

No kidding, really?

My hate-filled obsession as you call it isn't ridiculous, I don't let people forget the past. Which too many people here seem to want to do. And as the old saying goes, if you forget the past, you are bound to repeat it...

Who exactly is forgetting the past? Name and post number, please.

pithecanthropus wrote:

cyberpawz wrote:

They won't do anything to him because the did nothing to Teddy...

All I can say is that if I crashed my car while under the influence, the cops wouldn't have brought me home.

Exactly. The only reason they didn't do the same to Patrick is because of the family, I could almost guarantee it. Police and never to let someone involved in a DUI free... and that is exactly what they did with Patrick. Now if anyone here can tell me with a straight face that he was let go, and escorted back to his home while drunk, wasn't specialized treatment then I've lost all respect for the people here as a whole.

You're making crap up.

No one here is arguing it wasn't "specialized treatment". The closest it gets to is that FriedChicken (who posted that AFTER your above post) said the drug combination is a likely possibility and that he may not, in fact have been drunk (from booze).

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#25 2006-05-06 11:08 am

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If he was Rush Limbaugh - there would be incredible outrage.
Talk about how the rich white man gets off easy.
Etc.


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