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Yay. But aren't the towers waiting for Woodcrest which was announced just a few days ago? Or does Woodcrest fall under Conroe?

jonycrash wrote:

Do you think apple will pass the savings onto the customer after intel lower's it's prices, or just pocket the difference?

I sold my desktop pc recently, and I'm stuck on this aging laptop.   I'd love to buy a new intel mac, but I think I'd be better off waiting a couple of months...ggrrr, I hate the waiting game.

Intel just announced lower prices on the older processors... not on teh new stuff.

Gipetto wrote:

Yay. But aren't the towers waiting for Woodcrest which was announced just a few days ago? Or does Woodcrest fall under Conroe?

Woodcrest is for servers, and I believe shares a lot with Conroe.

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple had 2 version of the Mac Pro, 2 with Conroe, and one with Woodcrest to replace the Quad.

WWDC.

MB38 wrote:

WWDC.

New screens with a reasonable price?

reece_james wrote:

MB38 wrote:

WWDC.

I think we will see a machine demoed, don't expect to play with it though. Should be cool at any rate!

I would not be surprised in the least if they [read: MacPro] ship within a week of announcement.  With regards to the MBPs, I have no idea.

iirc, there are reports that you can upgrade a Yonah to a Merom.  I don't know about Conroe, since it really is a desktop chip, where Yonah and Merom (Core Duo and Core 2 Duo respectively) are laptop chips.

MacBoy4139 wrote:

iirc, there are reports that you can upgrade a Yonah to a Merom.  I don't know about Conroe, since it really is a desktop chip, where Yonah and Merom (Core Duo and Core 2 Duo respectively) are laptop chips.

But, like on the wintel side of things, upgradability will be dependent on the motherboards. An EFI update may or may not be necessary (or, if necessary, may or may not be provided) to recognize the new chips. And it would probably have to come from Apple, not Intel.

There was a lot of orgasmic "INTEL!!! UPGRADE++!!!11" talk when we got socketed CPUs, but we're still at Apple's mercy when it comes to any upgrades worth doing - even if the Conroe and the Pentium M based chips use the same socket, which I doubt (At this point, LGA775 is so new that only Intel would be dumb enough to even consider abandoning it in favor of a new socket architecture - but they are Intel, which worries me.)

Upgrading from a Yonah to a Merom without any trouble would be nice - whether or not it actually works depends on how similar the chips are. If they're that similar, I guess it might not even be worth it unless you're starting with a core solo mini and popping in a 2+ Ghz dualie.

Pocket it and keep spending on OS X...

dvpierce wrote:

MacBoy4139 wrote:

iirc, there are reports that you can upgrade a Yonah to a Merom.  I don't know about Conroe, since it really is a desktop chip, where Yonah and Merom (Core Duo and Core 2 Duo respectively) are laptop chips.

But, like on the wintel side of things, upgradability will be dependent on the motherboards. An EFI update may or may not be necessary (or, if necessary, may or may not be provided) to recognize the new chips. And it would probably have to come from Apple, not Intel.

There was a lot of orgasmic "INTEL!!! UPGRADE++!!!11" talk when we got socketed CPUs, but we're still at Apple's mercy when it comes to any upgrades worth doing - even if the Conroe and the Pentium M based chips use the same socket, which I doubt (At this point, LGA775 is so new that only Intel would be dumb enough to even consider abandoning it in favor of a new socket architecture - but they are Intel, which worries me.)

Upgrading from a Yonah to a Merom without any trouble would be nice - whether or not it actually works depends on how similar the chips are. If they're that similar, I guess it might not even be worth it unless you're starting with a core solo mini and popping in a 2+ Ghz dualie.

You're right, but I'm sure the hacker community won't sit by and do nothing.  If people could get XP to boot on the machine without the help from Apple, there are going to be companies or hackers that get a CPU upgrade working.

Look at all the machines currently that Apple never intended to have upgraded, and all the upgrades available for them.

pcguy wrote:

MacBoy4139 wrote:

pcguy wrote:

I don't think you will see Core Duo/Core 2 Duo in Apple PM, but rather the latest version of Intel multcore desktop/server cpu.

Core 2 Duo Extreme = highest end Intel desktop chip. 

Actually I think you are right and not so right, Core 2 Duo Extreme is Intel cpu target at "gamer", not just "highest end intel desktop chip".

I think we're saying the same thing.  Games are very CPU intensive.  Hard core gamers are always going to want the highest-end CPU.

I stated that the Core 2 Duo Extreme is the highest end Intel desktop CPU, which can have many purposes (high end video editing, games, bioscience, etc).

Yes you are right that the name Core 2 Duo/Solo will be use on both their future laptop and desktop, but the curve is we have 2 part to the name, the first part is Core 2 Duo and the second part is a number right behind the "Core 2 Duo" name, between the 4000s to 6000s for Conroe processors(desktop) and the 5000s to 7000s for Merom(laptop).

There will always be a numbering scheme.  There is one now with the Core Duo. 

I am 99.99% certain that it won't looking from past Apple's business style.