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#1 2006-05-30 7:38 pm
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The sick Christian sniper game
This story brings to light the danger of the fundamentalists. In this case, a "Christian" group.
Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is "to conduct physical and spiritual warfare"; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life.
The game, slated for release by October 2006 in advance of the Christmas shopping rush, has been previewed at video game exhibitions, and reviewed by major newspapers and magazines. But until now, no fan or critic has pointed out the controversial game's connection to Mr. Warren or his dominionist agenda.
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Tyndale's licensing of the project ("Left Behind") infuriated one of its authors, Jack Thompson, a conservative Christian attorney and outspoken critic of video game violence, who told the Los Angeles Times that he severed ties with his publisher in a dispute over "Left Behind: Eternal Forces."
"It's absurd," said the video critic. "You can be the Christians blowing away the infidels, and if that doesn't hit your hot button, you can be the Antichrist blowing away all the Christians."
The firm's CEO is relying on network marketing through pastoral networks as a key part of his business plan, according to a report in the March 6, 2006, issue of Newsweek Magazine:Left Behind Games CEO Troy Lyndon, whose company went public in February, says the game's Christian themes will grab the audience that didn't mind gore in "The Passion of the Christ." "We've thought through how the Christian right and the liberal left will slam us," says Lyndon. "But megachurches are very likely to embrace this game." Though it will be marketed directly to congregations, Forces will also have a secular ad campaign in gaming magazines.

Oooooooo. A religious ad campaign and a secular ad campaign. How open-minded.
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#2 2006-05-30 8:18 pm
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I think I will turn up my Bad Brains record and filter out the noise of this world.
"So you say you gonna live the truth
Well have you checked out he future of the youth?
Doesn't seem to be much left for them, no, no, no
But there is an answer for all of Jah's children.
We don't want no war.
We don't need no violence.
We just want what's right.
Some peace and love."
"A child is influenced
By the make believe
To take advantage of this truth
Is cold hearted sin
So I say to youth right now:
Don't sway to the unjust!
No matter what they say
Never give in! Never give in!"
"Live with your head in the lion's mouth. I want you to overcome 'em with yeses, undermine 'em with grins, agree 'em to death and destruction, let 'em swoller you till they vomit or bust wide open." -Ralph Ellison
"Overpower, overcome" -Cro-Mags
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#3 2006-05-30 8:21 pm
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Where's Sty when I need him.
I need advice on a long range rifle with a good scope - and where to get aurmor peircing bullets. All under the table, of course.
In her right hand Jenny held the Bible of her mother
Jenny had a pistol in the other
-- Steve Taylor
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#4 2006-05-30 8:24 pm
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I guess I shouldn't be making jokes about this - since the beltway sniper was apparently muslim.
Neither should the game company.
Yeah - Islsam and Christianity are two different religions, but they are both religions.
In her right hand Jenny held the Bible of her mother
Jenny had a pistol in the other
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#5 2006-05-30 8:29 pm
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Re: The sick Christian sniper game
Yeah, I heard about this during one of the E3 in review things. It is throughly stupid.
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#6 2006-05-30 8:32 pm
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AWW COOL!!
"Evil will always triumph because Good is dumb."
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#7 2006-05-30 8:33 pm
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Re: The sick Christian sniper game
Barrrett 50... best long range sniper rifle a civilian can buy.
and yes, you can get the ammo also.
real armor piercing would prolly be easier to get as reloading components tho.
and any 50 is gunna poke a hole thru a car. no AP needed.
but as there is a "police action" going on, 50 ammo is at a premium.
I have to reload my own now as it's pretty expensive to buy.
Hornady makes some kick as long range bullets tho 
but it's still about $3.75 each time you pull the trigger.
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#8 2006-05-30 8:46 pm
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macnuke wrote:
Barrrett 50... best long range sniper rifle a civilian can buy.
and yes, you can get the ammo also.
real armor piercing would prolly be easier to get as reloading components tho.
and any 50 is gunna poke a hole thru a car. no AP needed.
But it needs to be able to pierce through an armor plated car - and the bullet proof vest of the person of inside the car.
In her right hand Jenny held the Bible of her mother
Jenny had a pistol in the other
-- Steve Taylor
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#10 2006-05-30 9:08 pm
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Re: The sick Christian sniper game
resedit wrote:
macnuke wrote:
Barrrett 50... best long range sniper rifle a civilian can buy.
and yes, you can get the ammo also.
real armor piercing would prolly be easier to get as reloading components tho.
and any 50 is gunna poke a hole thru a car. no AP needed.But it needs to be able to pierce through an armor plated car - and the bullet proof vest of the person of inside the car.
standard FMJ military round will do that to a police version of "armored"
and when you are hit with a 750gr bullet, having your vest pierced is the least of your worries. the frontal steel insert pretty much turns the meat behind it to a red slush.
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#11 2006-05-30 9:38 pm
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This was covered in The Simpsons episode Alone Again, Natura-Diddily
The Simpsons wrote:
Bart: When I'm feeling low, you know what cheers me up?
Rod: Kindness?
Bart: Oooh, tough room. Video games! Whaddyagot?
(He reaches to the bookshelf and picks up a copy of "Billy Graham's Bible Blasters," and they begin to play.)
Rod: Keep firing! Convert the heathens!
(A series of "heathens" crosses the video screen as a "Bible gun" fires Bibles at them. When a "heathen" is hit, he turns into a conservatively dressed man with a halo.)
Bart: Got him!
Rod: No, you just winged him and made him a Unitarian.
Todd: Look out, Bart! A gentle Baha'i!
(Bart zaps the Baha'i, turning him into another suit with a halo).
Bart: All right! Full conversion!
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#12 2006-05-30 9:42 pm
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macnuke wrote:
resedit wrote:
macnuke wrote:
Barrrett 50... best long range sniper rifle a civilian can buy.
and yes, you can get the ammo also.
real armor piercing would prolly be easier to get as reloading components tho.
and any 50 is gunna poke a hole thru a car. no AP needed.But it needs to be able to pierce through an armor plated car - and the bullet proof vest of the person of inside the car.
standard FMJ military round will do that to a police version of "armored"
and when you are hit with a 750gr bullet, having your vest pierced is the least of your worries. the frontal steel insert pretty much turns the meat behind it to a red slush.
I know (I hope) you are kidding. But, just the same, I have chills down my back and hair is standing up on the nape of my neck. Have either of you ever seen the 'gore' one of these things can do to flesh. 
You have a right to your own opinion. You do not have a right to your own facts -
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#13 2006-05-30 9:45 pm
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Re: The sick Christian sniper game
yes
unfortunately, not kidding.
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#14 2006-05-30 9:50 pm
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Re: The sick Christian sniper game
Fundies are dangerous no matter the flavor.
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#15 2006-05-30 9:55 pm
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Re: The sick Christian sniper game
yup
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#17 2006-05-30 11:07 pm
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and you get to play the antichrist too?
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#18 2006-05-31 1:51 am
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Re: The sick Christian sniper game
joseph_tso wrote:
and you get to play the antichrist too?
From the article:
"It's absurd," said the video critic. "You can be the Christians blowing away the infidels, and if that doesn't hit your hot button, you can be the Antichrist blowing away all the Christians."
BTW: the "video critic" is the infamous (in gaming circles, at least) Jack Thompson.
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#19 2006-05-31 2:01 am
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Re: The sick Christian sniper game
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!*
*You'd know that can be used non-sexually if you weren't a drugged-up psychotic gamer.
The implication for me is that he left the project because of the ability to play the antichrist. Also we should remember:
What we have seen is that any video game that comes out (al Qaeda will) modify it and change the game for their needs.
Oh, and Methodists play Halo 2.
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#20 2006-05-31 2:04 am
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BUT WILL IT HAVE MULTIPLAYER
Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.
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#21 2006-05-31 2:07 am
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Sure, with your lax gun laws.
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#22 2006-05-31 3:03 am
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ChronoTriggerXP wrote:
Fundies are dangerous no matter the flavor.
Actually, it depends upon what you consider to be "fundamental".
For me - my definition of fundamentalist is different than a lot.
What some people consider key fundamentalists (IE Jim Jones) - I consider their theology fundamentally flawed - and _not_ based on the fundamental principles that the Bible teaches.
In her right hand Jenny held the Bible of her mother
Jenny had a pistol in the other
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#23 2006-05-31 6:29 am
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My personal definition isn't necessarly religious, eco-terrorists fall into the same category. I guess extremists would be a better word I suppose. Everyone is guilty of letting their beliefs cloud their judgement from time to time.
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#24 2006-05-31 10:04 am
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Re: The sick Christian sniper game
macnuke wrote:
yes
unfortunately, not kidding.
:: vomits a little bit in his mouth ::
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#25 2006-05-31 11:01 am
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Is it any worse that Grand Theft Auto?
Or a delightful game I'm playing now, called "Destory All Humans!" where you are an alien who gets to kill .... all humans. (yes, there's an Anal Probe, too)
The "Civilization" series of games let you attack other civilizations with nuclear weapons.
I didn't play that Command and Conquer: Generals (I think?), but one team was pretty much "the Arab insurgents with suicide bombers and chemical weapon attacks", wasn't it ?
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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