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You cite these animations as if they are the word of god, yet you don't even say what they are of.

Nuclear power facilities would also be a good place for the manufacure of hydrogen fuel cells.

Cyberpawz wrote:

http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/earth/pic … lobal.mpeg

http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/earth/pic … obe3d.mpeg

What does that even show?

Does it take into account the population of each country?

You know. I'm not Indian, Chinese or Japanese. I have no say in the conduct of their industry or government. I am an American.

I do have a say (albeit a small say) in the conduct of my government and our industry.

Chickenhawk wrote:

resedit wrote:

Nuclear power facilities would also be a good place for the manufacure of hydrogen fuel cells.

Huh?

Close to the production facilities means less power lost over transfer from facility, and also means the power being used for them is not fossil fuel.

I'm worried that when hydrogen fuel cells catch on, since hydrogen fuel cells are an energy storage device - a lot of the energy they store is going to be fossil fuel, and thus no real net gain against carbon based pollution. But if they use nuclear power, then they aren't using fossil fuel for the energy source.

silly goose.

Chickenhawk wrote:

You cite these animations as if they are the word of god, yet you don't even say what they are of.

What was the topic I was writing about? Are you really that dense?

charon wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

In any case I'm wondering, when are people going to stop blaming the US for the majority of the pollution of the world when it seems that we are far from the worst polluters out there, and these animations give some strong basis to prove that belief on.

Who has claimed the U.S. is responsible for "the majority of the pollution of the world"? 

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/usenv.html

the United States remains the largest energy consumer in the world, and also the world's largest emitter of energy-related carbon dioxide.

Metacell wrote:

PER CAPITA.
PER CAPITA.
PER CAPITA.

per capita.

That is an excuse and you know it. The United States Produces 25% of all products for the world, and we produce 25% of all pollution... a tit for tat... 


Not to mention China has 1,306,313,812 people... give or take via the CIA website.
The US has 295,734,134 People via the same site...

So tell me, since China has more people, they are allowed to pollute more While producing less for the world as a whole? That is a slightly uneven thought process.

Jaligard wrote:

You know. I'm not Indian, Chinese or Japanese. I have no say in the conduct of their industry or government. I am an American.

I do have a say (albeit a small say) in the conduct of my government and our industry.

Dare I ask why they are involved with trying to make us pollute less?

Last edited by Cyberpawz (2006-06-02 7:59 am)

Who is using the most oil by far?
Maybe '''how much you consume'' also matters.



Consumption
(Millions of barrels per day):
United States: 19.993
Japan: 5.423
China: 4.854
Germany: 2.814
Russia: 2.531
South Korea: 2.126
Brazil: 2.123
Canada: 2.048
France: 2.040
India: 2.011
Mexico: 1.932
Italy: 1.881
United Kingdom: 1.699
Spain: 1.465
SaudiArabia: 1.415
Iran: 1.109
Indonesia: 1.063
Netherlands: .881
Australia: .879
Taiwan: .846

Last edited by Proost (2006-06-02 8:17 am)

Proost wrote:

Who is using the most oil by far?

Moving the goal posts are we?

Proost wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

Proost wrote:

Who is using the most oil by far?

Moving the goal posts are we?

Well '''how much you consume'' also matters otherwise wy import that much?
Indirect we are guilty from bad pollution somewhere else.

We can't be responsible for other countries as someone here already graciously pointed out.

Cyberpawz wrote:

Proost wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

Moving the goal posts are we?

Well '''how much you consume'' also matters otherwise wy import that much?
Indirect we are guilty from bad pollution somewhere else.

We can't be responsible for other countries as someone here already graciously pointed out.

You import because usa or Europian companies for example moved to China to make the products cheaper where there are less tough rules for the environment so they can produce cheaper, also because people work for less money of course. Maybe the country isn't the the only guilty 1 but we buy those products so indirect we are also the reason why there is pollution somewhere else.

Last edited by Proost (2006-06-02 9:03 am)

D'Eyncourt wrote:

bratboy wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/earth/pic … lobal.mpeg

http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/earth/pic … obe3d.mpeg

What does that even show?

Does it take into account the population of each country?

Apparently these animations show carbon monoxide (CO) generation around the world. You can see a source of these animations here along with an explanation that what is being measured is in parts per billion (PPB), and that even the highest measurements (the dark red zones) are in the range of 250 PPB.

What? Were you expecting something important?

You act like we shouldn't treat all pollution as interchangeable.