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#26 2006-06-03 12:38 pm
Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
Oh theres always this little well comment as well:
Official Apologizes For Saying Bush Should Be Shot Between Eyes
NEW YORK -- State Comptroller Alan Hevesi publicly apologized Thursday for a "beyond dumb" remark about a fellow Democrat putting "a bullet between the president's eyes."
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/9306297/de … p;psp=news
Not too much flap tho
Just like back in Saigon! Eh, slick?
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#27 2006-06-03 12:47 pm
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
Farmerkev wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
Would it be in the same ballpark as say a comment at a party?A party?
What are you on about now?Just remembering the flap and the price paid for comments at Thurmond's party.
Aw, Kev ... holding on to all the old hurts is such bad karma. Let it all go!
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#28 2006-06-03 1:41 pm
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Steyr AUG wrote:
Oh theres always this little well comment as well:
Official Apologizes For Saying Bush Should Be Shot Between Eyes
NEW YORK -- State Comptroller Alan Hevesi publicly apologized Thursday for a "beyond dumb" remark about a fellow Democrat putting "a bullet between the president's eyes."http://www.wnbc.com/politics/9306297/de … p;psp=news
Not too much flap tho
It was on all cable newscasts I saw, not just once, but over and over again. 
Bad manners is always news. Apologies seem to be smugly tagged by weak minded folk as weakness, when, in point of fact, it takes courage for one to admit to making a mistake. Good manners seem to be in very short supply these days.
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#29 2006-06-03 3:01 pm
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
A party?
What are you on about now?Just remembering the flap and the price paid for comments at Thurmond's party.
Aw, Kev ... holding on to all the old hurts is such bad karma. Let it all go!
Not at all, just want one standard for both sides.
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#30 2006-06-04 1:28 pm
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
Farmerkev wrote:
Just remembering the flap and the price paid for comments at Thurmond's party.
What?
Umm, no. I'm having a difficult time seeing where any comparison exists.
Lott was criticized for making a dumb joke that sounded racist in tone to some. Were Dean's comments either a "joke," or discriminatory?
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#31 2006-06-04 1:49 pm
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Can someone remind me what Dean said? 'Cause I missed that one and am confused as hell.
George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
George Bush: "One of the hardest parts of my job is to try to connect Iraq to the war on terror."
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#32 2006-06-04 1:49 pm
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
Sassy wrote:
Steyr AUG wrote:
Oh theres always this little well comment as well:
Official Apologizes For Saying Bush Should Be Shot Between Eyes
NEW YORK -- State Comptroller Alan Hevesi publicly apologized Thursday for a "beyond dumb" remark about a fellow Democrat putting "a bullet between the president's eyes."http://www.wnbc.com/politics/9306297/de … p;psp=news
Not too much flap thoIt was on all cable newscasts I saw, not just once, but over and over again.
It's also on the cover of today's Newsday.
I think that makes it a pretty big flap considering the nothingness of this dude's political position.
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#33 2006-06-04 1:51 pm
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The Simpsons wrote:
Now this is what Comptrolling is all about!
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#34 2006-06-04 3:39 pm
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
bratboy wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
Just remembering the flap and the price paid for comments at Thurmond's party.
What?
Umm, no. I'm having a difficult time seeing where any comparison exists.
Lott was criticized for making a dumb joke that sounded racist in tone to some. Were Dean's comments either a "joke," or discriminatory?
Hell Bratty, if you don't have a problem with him telling people the Dems think marriage should be between a man and a woman or think it was a veiled nod to the homophobes, I certainly don't.
The man makes a fine leader for the DNC.
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#35 2006-06-04 4:57 pm
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Hell Bratty, if you don't have a problem with him telling people the Dems think marriage should be between a man and a woman or think it was a veiled nod to the homophobes, I certainly don't.
The man makes a fine leader for the DNC.
Has the national Democratic party ever claimed that "marriage" for homosexuals was one of their platforms?
I've never believed so. I believe most Dems are opposed to any sort of national amendment forbidding gay marriage, but I've never looked to the DNC to be any sort of champion of homosexual rights.
As far as having "a problem," I really don't care for Dean and I think the fact that he was pandering to Robertson's crew is stupid.
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#36 2006-06-04 5:50 pm
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Has the national Democratic party ever claimed that "marriage" for homosexuals was one of their platforms?
I don't think so. I don't think they would make such a statement.
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#37 2006-06-04 6:44 pm
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Appearing on the 700 is equivalent to taking the stage at a White Aryan Resistance meeting. Dean should have been pilloried for it.
But pointing out Dean's smurf up does not take anything away from the truly evil way Bush and his bunch are attempting to paint gays as the source of all moral problems in our country.
It is not hyperbole to point out a strong parallel between this tactic of Bush's and a certain other leader in another country and a certain religious minority. Some ways of thinking just logically lead to death camps and slaughter.
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#38 2006-06-05 11:00 am
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I think the Repubs are stupid for doing this. Do they even have enough votes to put it up for a full Senate vote? I believe you need 60 votes to do that.
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#39 2006-06-05 11:17 am
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
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I think the Repubs are stupid for doing this. Do they even have enough votes to put it up for a full Senate vote? I believe you need 60 votes to do that.
2/3rds is required, in both houses.
Then of course there is the arduous process of having to have 3/4 of the states ratify such a thing.
Personally I hope they get the amendment passed and on ratification road.
The left in this country needs a good solid kick in the ass and this would be a good one.
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#40 2006-06-05 11:49 am
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
ShnickyShnack wrote:
I think the Repubs are stupid for doing this. Do they even have enough votes to put it up for a full Senate vote? I believe you need 60 votes to do that.
:Kicks Shnicky:
You must know this all about November and has nothing to do with gay marriage.
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#41 2006-06-05 12:38 pm
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It's still a stupid thing to do.
I heard a CNN commentator say that people are now aware that it's just a vote-pulling stunt and that the contrast with more serious issues is going to create problems for the Reps.
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#42 2006-06-05 1:10 pm
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
Jaligard wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
I think the Repubs are stupid for doing this. Do they even have enough votes to put it up for a full Senate vote? I believe you need 60 votes to do that.
:Kicks Shnicky:
You must know this all about November and has nothing to do with gay marriage.
Yes I realize that, but won't it backfire if they can't even get it put to a vote? Doesn't it make them look ineffectual and useless?
Hell, do they even have all their own senators on board?
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#43 2006-06-05 1:36 pm
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I suspect part of the repubs plan is to build public disgust with the process to the point only the "true believers" bother to vote.
Its no coincidence that the rise of republicans to majority status was concurrent with voter turnout falling to historic lows. The wacky right is not anything like a majority view in this country but they get out and vote so when the center stays home, they win.
All the republicans need to do is discourage the decent folks and they get re-elected.
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#44 2006-06-05 7:25 pm
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/05.html#a8586
Except if you're gay.
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#45 2006-06-05 7:55 pm
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So, Bush proposes an amendment to the Constitution, sort of hides his speech in another "venue" and then does not take questions from the press. Sounds like a chicken to me. http://pageoneq.com/news/2006/bush_060506.html
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#46 2006-06-05 8:47 pm
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All it means is that Bush is trying to pretend that he really cared about those "christian" values he trouted out before the right wing evangelicals in the last election when he made it appear as if anti-gay marriage was as serious an issue as Iraq and Social Security to him and the Republicans so they needed their vote to help make it happen. Its lip service as if to say "um, I have to say this for those whackos I got to vote me in office, we might need them in a couple months, so shut up and let me say this, and no comments afterwards either."
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#47 2006-06-05 9:44 pm
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
Pariah wrote:
I suspect part of the repubs plan is to build public disgust with the process to the point only the "true believers" bother to vote.
Its no coincidence that the rise of republicans to majority status was concurrent with voter turnout falling to historic lows. The wacky right is not anything like a majority view in this country but they get out and vote so when the center stays home, they win.
All the republicans need to do is discourage the decent folks and they get re-elected.
I thought the turnout was pretty good in '04.
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#48 2006-06-05 11:46 pm
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Jaligard wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
I think the Repubs are stupid for doing this. Do they even have enough votes to put it up for a full Senate vote? I believe you need 60 votes to do that.
:Kicks Shnicky:
You must know this all about November and has nothing to do with gay marriage.Yes I realize that, but won't it backfire if they can't even get it put to a vote? Doesn't it make them look ineffectual and useless?
Hell, do they even have all their own senators on board?
They don't need to actualy do anything, just sound like they want to. That'll guarantee them plenty of votes even if it never gets past talking stage.
"Didja hear Dubya's going for the gay marriage ban right in the constitution, Earle?"
"Why bless his godly soul, Myrtle. Bless his godly Republican, Christian soul. That's what I say. I'm fer sure voting Republican fer sure now."
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#49 2006-06-06 12:37 am
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Re: There Must Be Another Election Coming Up...
KingFred wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Jaligard wrote:
:Kicks Shnicky:
You must know this all about November and has nothing to do with gay marriage.Yes I realize that, but won't it backfire if they can't even get it put to a vote? Doesn't it make them look ineffectual and useless?
Hell, do they even have all their own senators on board?They don't need to actualy do anything, just sound like they want to. That'll guarantee them plenty of votes even if it never gets past talking stage.
"Didja hear Dubya's going for the gay marriage ban right in the constitution, Earle?"
"Why bless his godly soul, Myrtle. Bless his godly Republican, Christian soul. That's what I say. I'm fer sure voting Republican fer sure now."
Come on, is it really that bad? Will numbskulls vote for these guys even if they're just going through the motions in an obvious play for support? I mean, it's so damn transparent, they're not even trying to dress it up anymore!
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