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ShnickyShnack · 2006-06-25 10:05 pm

Saddam thinks the US will beg him to lead Iraq again

Khalil al-Dulaimi argued in an interview with The Associated Press that the former leader is the key to returning stability to Iraq.

"He's their last resort. They're going to knock at his door eventually," the lawyer said. Saddam is "the only person who can stop the resistance against the U.S. troops."

"These puppets in the Iraqi government that the Americans brought to power are helpless. They can't protect themselves or the Iraqi people. The Americans will certainly come to me, to Saddam Hussein's legitimate leadership and to the Iraqi Baath Party, to rescue them from their huge quandary."

Although he would not say exactly what Saddam might ask in return for helping, al-Dulaimi said it would not necessarily involve being reinstated as president of Iraq � a nation he ruled brutally and plunged into three devastating wars.

The lawyer suggested, though, that Saddam might be willing to negotiate such help by making the verdict in his trial a bargaining chip.

Al-Dulaimi claimed the outcome of the trial has already been determined.

"The ongoing trial and verdict, which are already decided by Washington, are expected to result in the death penalty," he said.

"The death penalty is political blackmail to pressure President Saddam to help the American forces out of their predicament in Iraq and to rescue it from the mess it created there."

Kind of an interesting proposition, actually. Completely insane, of course, but wouldn't that be a wild turn of events!

Ribtorus · 2006-06-26 5:24 am

Not insane exactly, because he was America's man in Iraq longer than he was the enemy.

resedit · 2006-06-26 6:55 am

Characterizing him as "Americas Man" I think is a bit presumptuous.

During the 80s we played him against Iran and Iran against him - but that did not make him "Americas Man" in Iraq.

resedit · 2006-06-26 6:58 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hus … n_of_power

That's a decent read up on Saddam.

Ribtorus · 2006-06-26 7:11 am

I wonder, given the 'evil' nature of the Iranian Islamist leadership, if Saddam's reputation might get rehabilited in later years by those who favour a hard line against insurgents in general, and against Iran in particular.

Wouldn't that be something.

ShnickyShnack · 2006-06-26 10:18 am

resedit wrote:
Characterizing him as "Americas Man" I think is a bit presumptuous.

During the 80s we played him against Iran and Iran against him - but that did not make him "Americas Man" in Iraq.

So supplying the guy with weapons, industrial equipment, cash and advisors for a number of years doesn't make him "America's man?" Just what does, may one ask?

Freakout Jackson · 2006-06-26 11:25 am

I thought this thread wuz gonna be aboutthis guy.
Needless to say, I'm disappointed.

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ShnickyShnack · 2006-06-26 11:36 am

Freakout Jackson wrote:
I thought this thread wuz gonna be aboutthis guy.
Needless to say, I'm disappointed.

He's Canadian!

sturner · 2006-06-26 12:34 pm

It's a real shame so many Canadians are masquerading as 'Mericans.

Res, take off that scarlet C. We are going to make the Canadians south of the Border here to wear it.

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ScroogeMcDuck · 2006-07-02 7:26 pm

If that man dropped a low yield nuclear weapon.

MrJ in OZ · 2006-07-02 10:22 pm

Saddam was always nothing more than a mafia ruler. There is no way it would happen and even if it did, he could never take control of the country again. Sadly, only religious leaders in Iraq can gain the power. Bush will of just succeeded in creating another Iran if the US pulls out now (with IMO is what will happen).

ScroogeMcDuck · 2006-07-06 11:19 pm

And that man...

Is Sergeant Slaughter, official field commander for America's daring, highly trained
special mission force.

It's purpose, to defend human freedom against ruthless, terrorist organizations determined to rule the world and the hippies that support them by buying pot.

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AAPL Shareholder · 2006-07-07 12:59 am

ScroogeMcDuck wrote:
And that man...

Is Sergeant Slaughter, official field commander for America's daring, highly trained
special mission force.

It's purpose, to defend human freedom against ruthless, terrorist organizations determined to rule the world and the hippies that support them by buying pot.

Sergeant Slaughter would totally secure Iraq.

He'd fly in and Cobra would probably blow up his plane... but he'd eject, parachute down, and shoot like 200 insurgents during his slow decent.

Then he'd clothesline and slap like 500 more once he landed.

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Mustapha Mond · 2006-07-07 8:14 am

It's about time Sergeant Slaughter made it into a MiniThink thread.

user · 2006-07-07 8:26 am

looks like he could just beat them up with his chin

Pariah · 2006-07-07 8:48 am

MrJ in OZ wrote:
Saddam was always nothing more than a mafia ruler. There is no way it would happen and even if it did, he could never take control of the country again. Sadly, only religious leaders in Iraq can gain the power. Bush will of just succeeded in creating another Iran if the US pulls out now (with IMO is what will happen).

This situation must be very conflicting to alot of the Bush republicans.
On the one hand they dont like the anti-Americanism of the Islamist states but on the other hand I bet they envy the way the Islamists have made strong theocracies.
Something the members of the radical right would love to have here.

El Light Borus · 2006-07-07 9:14 am

Damn, I thought this was gonna be a Chuck Norris thread.

NokX · 2006-07-07 9:43 am

resedit wrote:
Characterizing him as "Americas Man" I think is a bit presumptuous.

During the 80s we played him against Iran and Iran against him - but that did not make him "Americas Man" in Iraq.

yeah, but apparently america is suppose to be able to look into the future and predict whether someone is going to turn into a nut job or not.

and i'd like for anyone of these anti-war people who constantly cry about "oh, the US armed iraq". yeah? name one weapon used by the iraqi army that was american made.

even better, what percentage of the arms sold to iraq were from the US? oh, let's try 0.5%. but the US is the bad guys, right? not russia (68%) or france (12%) or china (11%)...but the US...a whopping 0.5%. those guys are the "heroes" cause they didn't participate in this war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_sales … _1973-1990

liberals, you hate america...yeah, we get it. just get your facts straight while you're at it. k thx.

MrJ in OZ · 2006-07-07 10:11 am

AAPL Shareholder wrote:
ScroogeMcDuck wrote:
And that man...

Is Sergeant Slaughter, official field commander for America's daring, highly trained
special mission force.

It's purpose, to defend human freedom against ruthless, terrorist organizations determined to rule the world and the hippies that support them by buying pot.
Sergeant Slaughter would totally secure Iraq.
http://www.carlson316wrestling.net/hall … ughter.jpg

He'd fly in and Cobra would probably blow up his plane... but he'd eject, parachute down, and shoot like 200 insurgents during his slow decent.

Then he'd clothesline and slap like 500 more once he landed.

lol

sturner · 2006-07-07 11:13 am

NokX wrote:
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resedit wrote:
Characterizing him as "Americas Man" I think is a bit presumptuous.

During the 80s we played him against Iran and Iran against him - but that did not make him "Americas Man" in Iraq.
yeah, but apparently america is suppose to be able to look into the future and predict whether someone is going to turn into a nut job or not.

liberals, you hate america...yeah, we get it. just get your facts straight while you're at it. k thx.

Over 10 years of support did make him that. If you will recall he got rather good treatment because he was our foil, so yes he was our man.

And we knew he was a little tin-pot dictator, just like the countless others we have supported in the short-term effort to obtain our goals. And we have paid the price for that short-term planning, haven't we?

The buck stops with the person who decides to implement and support the policy. That means Democratic and Republican Presidents. It was and always has been our misfortune to grab for the short-term solution rather than working slower for a long-term solution.

NokX you need to back off of the calling of names. I've probably been of a liberal mind longer than you've been voting, and I defy you to prove that I am not a patriot. Or is fascism the only litmus test you have for patriotism?

kb5zhh · 2006-07-07 11:16 am

NokX wrote:
liberals, you hate america...yeah, we get it.

And you hate the constitution.

Ribtorus · 2006-07-07 11:26 am

Perhaps NokX is ahead of the curve on this one. wink

Maybe the war hawks are poised to recast the Iranians of the 1980s as heroic democratic defenders against Hussein's despotic tyranny. They had the guts to stand up to his war-mongering. This line could also re-cast Reagan's and Israel's secret arms deals with Iran at the time as a far-sighted and glorious policy; only to be undone by the wicked liberals of the Washington elite! If only the secret arms deals with Iran had gone through, Hussein would be long gone in the 90's and there'd be no Gulf war and no need to invade Iraq in 2003!

I blame the liberals.

bratboy · 2006-07-07 12:06 pm

NokX wrote:
liberals, you hate america...yeah, we get it. just get your facts straight while you're at it. k thx.

Questioning one's patriotism because you disagree with their politics is pretty weak, NokX.

down

NokX · 2006-07-07 12:44 pm

kb5zhh wrote:
NokX wrote:
liberals, you hate america...yeah, we get it.
And you hate the constitution.

how so?

bratboy wrote:
NokX wrote:
liberals, you hate america...yeah, we get it. just get your facts straight while you're at it. k thx.
Questioning one's patriotism because you disagree with their politics is pretty weak, NokX.

if their politics jeopardize our country and constantly say we're always the bad guy then i don't see the problem with it

bratboy · 2006-07-07 12:50 pm

NokX wrote:
if their politics jeopardize our country and constantly say we're always the bad guy then i don't see the problem with it

Over half of the American public believes the war was a mistake.

There are "liberals" in Iraq as we speak. "Liberals" have lost loved ones in this war.

You should be embarrassed.

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