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#1 2006-06-26 12:36 pm

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os 9 to intel mac

i know that people have talked about this but i haven't seen any solution to it.
here is my dilemma
games civ 2 and quake 1 and 2
i have the new intel imac networked
also a g4 imac networked that will run os 9 games
and a g3  266 imac kicking ass running 10.2.?   not networked
how can i get those 3 games above to run on my intel imac?
is there a way that i can run the game on the g4 and play it on the intel?
i also heard you can load it onto a g4 update it to run on os x than somehow put it on the intel and rosetta takes over...if possible than please explain
any other ideas please post
thanks in advance

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#2 2006-06-26 6:20 pm

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Re: os 9 to intel mac

Quake 1: SheepShaver (software only) or GLQuake
Quake 2: SheepShaver (software only)
Civ 2: SheepShaver or Basilisk II

I actually haven't tried Quake II yet in SheepShaver, but Quake I runs pretty well, so maybe maybe not.  If it does run, it'll be software-only.


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#3 2006-06-26 9:39 pm

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Re: os 9 to intel mac

HEY! This is good news to me! I was worried how I was going to play Civ II MGE if I buy a new Mac sometime in the future! (current running an iMac G5) How hard is it for average MacUser to get SheepShaver up and running on an Intel Mac? A quick look makes it seem that there is some compiling to do to SheepShaver source code before it could be loaded on a Mac.


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#4 2006-06-27 12:47 am

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Re: os 9 to intel mac

No compiling, you just need to download the pre-compiled Universal Binary.  If you have a PPC Mac, the CPU emulation is direct (near-native speed).  If you have an Intel Mac, a good (by open-source standards) CPU emulator takes over.  Performance on Intel is probably somewhere around a slow G3 - good enough for most stuff.  Hardware accelerated 3D likely won't ever be implemented, which kills a lot of games made from '95-'01.  The current release is also a touch unstable, and the current mouse implementation makes it incompatible with 3D games.

Setting up SheepShaver can be done with the now-included Java-based configuration utility.  It's actually pretty simple (or quite difficult, depending on your circumstances): Step 1, make a hard disk image with Disk Utility;  Step 2, get a hold of a PPC Mac ROM; Step 3, Launch the config utility and tell SS where to find the HD image and ROM files.  Then, you just install OS 9.0.2 or earlier as if it were an actual Mac.

There are a couple of complications though.  First, getting the Mac ROM image requires that you have access to a PPC Mac with OS 9 installed (either Classic-mode or native).  Basically you need to download the iMac Firmware update 1.1 from Apple, and use TomeViewer (Classic app) to extract the file "Mac OS ROM."  The other complication is regarding OS 9.  Simply put, it only works with 9.0.2 or earlier, and there's no way to "downgrade" a later copy.  I suspect this limitation will be addressed in a later version of SheepShaver, but there's no telling when this will happen.


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#5 2006-06-27 3:05 am

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Re: os 9 to intel mac

quake 1 and 2 have been ported to os X... and they are even universal apps.

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