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#1 2006-06-27 3:59 pm

davic3
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Read the menu or just ask

As I have said many times I work part time in a restaurant. One of the most annoying thing is when someone orders an item and then after the kitchen prepares it and it i served they say, "oh i didn't realize this had cheese in it. I can't eat this". I understand if you have allergies or or lactose intolerant or even a vegan. What pisses me off is we cannot tell any of these things from looking at you. The meat eaters look just like the vegetarians. The menu clearly says we put cheese in our burritos. Therefore if you can't have that tell me. I had it happen again where this idiot orders the burrito then sends it back because it had cheese in it. Which part of stuffed with beef & CHEESE confused you. Of course everything must come to a screeching halt to redo this jerk's order. If you have issues really let us know. There isn't a server I know who would not want to get the order correct the first time. We aren't mind readers speak up ask questions if you must. BUT DON'T BITCH AT ME WHEN YOU NEGLECT TO TELL ME ABOUT AN ALLERGY AND THEN GET THAT ITEM!


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#2 2006-06-27 4:35 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Rule of thumb: people are idiots.

Most of the people I know who are a) allergic or b) dislike a food are sure to ask about it in any reasonable situation. For example, my ex knew better than to order pesto because it was sure to have pine nuts in it, but she probably wouldn't ask if she were ordering steak (and, of course, the steak in question wasn't pine nut encrusted prime rib). I think that if I didn't like cheese and was ordering something like a burrito (which usually has cheese), then I would be sure to ask. Or read the menu. Who doesn't like cheese!?

Anyway, you're in a tough situation. The smurf in me suggests the following situation:

1. Tell the customer to hold on one second.
2. Get a menu.
3. Point out the item they ordered, specifically the "with cheese" line.
4. Tell them that you and the chef would gladly have made the item to order, but that you can only do so before the food is made. Also, that you could understand if the food wasn't as expected, but given that the cheese was clearly included burrito, that they have nothing to complain about.
5. (Optional.) Also, throw in a line about literacy in America and how Burger King might be a better fir for both their budget and their intelligence level. Present them with a kids menu. Tell them that you don't have pictures of all the items. Point out their ignorance of Spanish cuisine. Mock them for disliking cheese.

Option Two (even more smurf-ish):
1. Smile, and re-enter the item. Don't rush it. Charge them for both the original and the re-order and let the manager handle it. Also, include a 20% tip in the tab. Hide it under the bread cost or water cost.

Option Three (realistic):
1. Smile, and re-enter the item. Rush it. Don't charge them for it.
2. Complain about idiots online.


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#3 2006-06-27 5:04 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

I would be kind of annoyed if the burrito didn't come with cheese.

I always ask about food when i order, but that comes from being so picky and not liking a lot of things. Even when ordering a burger and the condiment jars are on the table, i still ask if they put anything on the buns.

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#4 2006-06-27 5:14 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Basseq wrote:

Rule of thumb: people are idiots.

Most of the people I know who are a) allergic or b) dislike a food are sure to ask about it in any reasonable situation. For example, my ex knew better than to order pesto because it was sure to have pine nuts in it, but she probably wouldn't ask if she were ordering steak (and, of course, the steak in question wasn't pine nut encrusted prime rib). I think that if I didn't like cheese and was ordering something like a burrito (which usually has cheese), then I would be sure to ask. Or read the menu. Who doesn't like cheese!?

Anyway, you're in a tough situation. The smurf in me suggests the following situation:

1. Tell the customer to hold on one second.
2. Get a menu.
3. Point out the item they ordered, specifically the "with cheese" line.
4. Tell them that you and the chef would gladly have made the item to order, but that you can only do so before the food is made. Also, that you could understand if the food wasn't as expected, but given that the cheese was clearly included burrito, that they have nothing to complain about.
5. (Optional.) Also, throw in a line about literacy in America and how Burger King might be a better fir for both their budget and their intelligence level. Present them with a kids menu. Tell them that you don't have pictures of all the items. Point out their ignorance of Spanish cuisine. Mock them for disliking cheese.

Option Two (even more smurf-ish):
1. Smile, and re-enter the item. Don't rush it. Charge them for both the original and the re-order and let the manager handle it. Also, include a 20% tip in the tab. Hide it under the bread cost or water cost.

Option Three (realistic):
1. Smile, and re-enter the item. Rush it. Don't charge them for it.
2. Complain about idiots online.

You worked in a restaurant bfore havn't you;)
As much as I prefer options 1 and 2 I have to stick with 3 since it's the idiots who control my income


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#5 2006-06-27 5:40 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Basseq wrote:

Mock them for disliking cheese.

Repeatedly. Use the word "moran". They'll understand.

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#6 2006-06-27 5:41 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

option 4: hock a lugie in their queso.


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#7 2006-06-27 5:51 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Option 6.  Work somewhere that doesn't require any contact with the public.


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#8 2006-06-27 9:07 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

I've been in restaurant before we I have orded a dish, and the waiter says, "I just want to make sure that you realize that that dish has ______ on it."  I have always appreciated those comments, even when I did realize it.  It seems like good service.  Of course, you would sound like a fool if you said, "Of course you realize that our beef and cheese stuffed buritos have cheese in it didn't you?"  It takes some tact, you see.


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#9 2006-06-27 10:49 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

I genuinely try to be as helpful as I can. I have on many occasions gone and checked the ingredients label on item we use looking for a particular ingredient that someone cannot handle. Of course listing every item used to make every dish for every table on a busy night can be a bit time consuming, Besides most people do like cheese in their burritos.

BTW I have many times let someone know when, for example they mention that they don't like onions that the dish they ordered contains onions used in the preparation of that dish, then suggesting something else

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#10 2006-06-27 11:43 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Basseq wrote:

1. Tell the customer to hold on one second.
2. Get a menu.
3. Point out the item they ordered, specifically the "with cheese" line.
4. Tell them that you and the chef would gladly have made the item to order, but that you can only do so before the food is made. Also, that you could understand if the food wasn't as expected, but given that the cheese was clearly included burrito, that they have nothing to complain about.
5. (Optional.) Also, throw in a line about literacy in America and how Burger King might be a better fir for both their budget and their intelligence level. Present them with a kids menu. Tell them that you don't have pictures of all the items. Point out their ignorance of Spanish cuisine. Mock them for disliking cheese.

Option Two (even more smurf-ish):
1. Smile, and re-enter the item. Don't rush it. Charge them for both the original and the re-order and let the manager handle it. Also, include a 20% tip in the tab. Hide it under the bread cost or water cost.

I, also, wait tables and we have the same problem. Our chili has beans in it. If you order a hotdog with chili, it says in bold print that's larger than the other text that "Our chili has beans." One time, a girl ordered it, didn't want it, ordered another item and I charged her for both. She said that she didn't eat the hot dog and shouldn't have to pay for it. I said it's not my boss's fault that she didn't pay attention to the menu when she ordered and they shouldn't have to pay for the hot dog, either. She paid for both items and never came back.

I have also done option #1. Only, I change the thing about illiteracy to the fact that SC is the third worst in the country for illiteracy and it's such a shame. I can get away with it where I work now, but would have never been able to do it at the other places I have waited tables. The place I am now is a laid back restraunt/bar atmosphere and the owners let us have pretty much free reign over what we do and say. Thankfully...I know not everyone can do that.


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#11 2006-06-28 3:26 am

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Side topic, but restaurant relevant.

I've stopped going to lunch with a friend because no matter how hard the serving person tries he/she will NEVER succeed in making her happy! Not gonna happen! It's over-done, under-done, too slow, wants dressing on the side, no cheese, extra cheese, bread is cold, etc. Then she complains about the serving person's attitude.

Then, because she was a math major in college, she insists on figuring out who owes what, and more than once I've paid my share and half of hers, too!

Yeah, I'm slow to catch on. It's pretty crappy to trust a friend to divy up the check correctly, then realize that she'd been less than fair and honest about it.

The last time we did "lunch", it was raining and I suggested that we have pizza delivered and I divied up the check! Haven't done lunch since, which is fine with me.

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#12 2006-06-28 5:22 am

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

I work the other side of the line, I have to cook the food.


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#13 2006-06-28 7:55 am

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

lagamorph wrote:

[...] because she was a math major in college, [...]

I would guess her being a bitch has more to do with the attitude than the math major.

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#14 2006-06-28 8:39 am

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Damn it!! This steak is made of meat!!


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#15 2006-06-28 8:58 am

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

www.waiterrant.net !

One of my favorite restaurants is a local Thai place where the owner often comes round the tables to chat with customers.  Once she told us this story about a woman who absolutely demanded that her dish be prepared "authentically hot" and went on and on about how it better actually be spicy, etc.  So, the dish was prepared as ordered, and of course it was too spicy for the customer to eat.  The customer then demanded that the dish be sent back and replaced with a new one.  The owner told her that she'd have to pay for both meals, which of course infuriated the customer.  "You ordered it!  You pay for it!"  The customer did pay, but of course screamed about how she was never coming back.  "Good!  I don't want customers like you!"  Ha!  I love that place.

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#16 2006-06-28 9:41 am

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

lagamorph wrote:

I've stopped going to lunch with a friend because no matter how hard the serving person tries he/she will NEVER succeed in making her happy! Not gonna happen! It's over-done, under-done, too slow, wants dressing on the side, no cheese, extra cheese, bread is cold, etc. Then she complains about the serving person's attitude.

You lunch with my sister?

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#17 2006-06-28 10:50 am

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Oh, so cruel Justine!


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#18 2006-06-28 1:37 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

And yet, they will ask you if you want salt on your maragrita - everytime.

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#19 2006-06-28 1:46 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

I asked for no salt, but there was salt on the glass. Big grains.

I… I could put strychnine in the guacamole…

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#20 2006-06-28 2:06 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Basseq wrote:

Rule of thumb: people are idiots.

True.

But they are highly flammable as well so it pretty much works out even. As long as you don't mind the smell.


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#21 2006-06-28 3:15 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Alien wrote:

I asked for no salt, but there was salt on the glass. Big grains.

I… I could put strychnine in the guacamole…

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I could take my business to another competing resort.

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#22 2006-06-28 3:36 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

mtpalms wrote:

And yet, they will ask you if you want salt on your maragrita - everytime.

well the glasses arn't pemade with the salt on them:lol:


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#23 2006-06-28 3:37 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

sturner wrote:

Oh, so cruel Justine!

Lagamorph described my sister to a t, and it isn't limited to food service people. There have been times where one of my nieces and i were afraid we'd be banned from stores and restaurants because of things she's said to employees.

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#24 2006-06-28 3:58 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

icebook1 wrote:

I could take my business to another competing resort.

Traveller's checks!

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#25 2006-06-28 5:35 pm

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Re: Read the menu or just ask

Alien wrote:

lagamorph wrote:

[...] because she was a math major in college, [...]

I would guess her being a bitch has more to do with the attitude than the math major.

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Absolutley true. It was her way of telling me that I'm too stupid to divy up a check. Put me in my place and make sure I didn't question her "math" abilities, so she could divy up the check to her satisfaction.

I finally caught on when she pulled the "Do you have change for a $20?" scam on me during the tipping procedure. Somewhere in that I lost a $10 bill, the 0 hidden behind a $1 bill.

It's a sad thing to realize that someone you thought your friend for 20 years has been scamming you the whole time. No wonder she was always happy to do lunch! Never again!

I feel for you, Justine. My brother's wife is also one who cannot EVER just order from the menu and be satisfied with it. My brother says that he always tips extra because he feels badly for the serving person.

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