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#1 2006-07-03 11:38 am
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The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
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Uneasysilence reports that Microsoft has been using a MacBook Pro to demonstrate Office 2007 running on Vista.
This is probably the best way to recognize the superior quality of Apple notebooks, even though Apple might not like it so much to be used to run Vista.
It is likely that BootCamp will be discontinued with Leopard to promote a more integrated system that will make Vista running inside Mac OSX.
Also reported in The Register.
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Re: The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
kansukee wrote:
It is likely that BootCamp will be discontinued with Leopard to promote a more integrated system that will make Vista running inside Mac OSX.
Also reported in The Register.
*Downloads a copy.* For once, apple will not be the one to annoy me as they destroy all their old stuff they are ashamed of. [cough] OS 9, Classic, Jaguar [/cough]
#3 2006-07-03 1:57 pm
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Re: The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
My bet is against Apple incorporateing virtualization into the OS. I think they will leave it to 3rd parties.
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#4 2006-07-03 2:19 pm
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DudetheCreator wrote:
kansukee wrote:
It is likely that BootCamp will be discontinued with Leopard to promote a more integrated system that will make Vista running inside Mac OSX.
Also reported in The Register.*Downloads a copy.* For once, apple will not be the one to annoy me as they destroy all their old stuff they are ashamed of. [cough] OS 9, Classic, Jaguar [/cough]
I think it's called "upgrading"
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#5 2006-07-03 4:04 pm
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Re: The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
DudetheCreator wrote:
kansukee wrote:
It is likely that BootCamp will be discontinued with Leopard to promote a more integrated system that will make Vista running inside Mac OSX.
Also reported in The Register.*Downloads a copy.* For once, apple will not be the one to annoy me as they destroy all their old stuff they are ashamed of. [cough] OS 9, Classic, Jaguar [/cough]
Ashamed of? What gives you that impression? The fact that they dropped support to make money? How "business-like" of them. 
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#6 2006-07-03 8:05 pm
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Re: The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
Pariah wrote:
My bet is against Apple incorporateing virtualization into the OS. I think they will leave it to 3rd parties.
Parrallels? They already changed both there commercial and their site to mention Parrallels and not BootCamp.
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#7 2006-07-03 11:19 pm
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Thats really ironic. Once mortal enamies. And one Microsofts biggest opponets. Just to show them whats what they stole the computer to prove a point.
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#8 2006-07-03 11:31 pm
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BootCamp gives Apple a tenable position when dealing with Microsoft as both a minor software competitor from which they can swipe ideas and a potential source of customers. Virtualization (like that seen with Parallels) has a a similar effect. A WINE-like approach has the drawback of putting them in more direct competition with Microsoft which at this point is probably not a good idea.
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#9 2006-07-04 9:49 am
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Re: The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
Jack Sparrow wrote:
Pariah wrote:
My bet is against Apple incorporateing virtualization into the OS. I think they will leave it to 3rd parties.
Parrallels? They already changed both there commercial and their site to mention Parrallels and not BootCamp.
That is really weird. I wonder why they did that? 
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#10 2006-07-04 10:13 am
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Re: The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
Apple.com/getamac/ wrote:
Talk about a win-win situation. Now you can take advantage of all the benefits of owning a Mac but still enjoy the convenience of starting up your Mac in Windows XP and running a Windows-only game or productivity application when needed. Third-party software solutions such as Parallels Desktop for Mac help make it possible.
WTF?!
Teh Parallels doesn't do graphics.
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#11 2006-07-04 1:43 pm
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The only thing that could make me really happy is if we could have OS X on one partition, Windows on another, the ability to boot into both separately, the ability to run one inside the other (Windows in OS X, OS X inside Windows) off the HD (Not some virtual partition that can't be booted from. Like how Parallels/VPC works.) at near-full speed and the ability to have both running at the same time (One on each processor) with the ability to network them to each-other and switch between them ala Fast User Switching.
THAT would be the ultimate seamless integration of OS X and Windows short of actually integrating a WINE type system to run Windows apps along side OS X and vice-versa.
One can dream, right? I can't wait to get a new iMac, and I hope when 10.5 comes out most of the above is true.
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#12 2006-07-04 6:33 pm
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Jasoco wrote:
The only thing that could make me really happy is if we could have OS X on one partition, Windows on another, the ability to boot into both separately, the ability to run one inside the other (Windows in OS X, OS X inside Windows) off the HD (Not some virtual partition that can't be booted from. Like how Parallels/VPC works.) at near-full speed and the ability to have both running at the same time (One on each processor) with the ability to network them to each-other and switch between them ala Fast User Switching.
THAT would be the ultimate seamless integration of OS X and Windows short of actually integrating a WINE type system to run Windows apps along side OS X and vice-versa.
One can dream, right? I can't wait to get a new iMac, and I hope when 10.5 comes out most of the above is true.
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#13 2006-07-04 7:32 pm
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Aaaaand, it will be easier to get your work done if you don't have to reboot to use an app on the other OS.
Or were you kidding? A little joke-y joke.
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#14 2006-07-04 7:53 pm
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Re: The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
Jasoco wrote:
Aaaaand, it will be easier to get your work done if you don't have to reboot to use an app on the other OS.
Or were you kidding? A little joke-y joke.
Is tito ever serious? Maybe he is in a very messed up way.
But I can argee with you on that one. Who wants to reboot? You have to completely get back up to steam and build a new work flow. I think parrallels is a much better option.
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#16 2006-07-04 9:22 pm
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What is silly about it?
I'm using some Mac only program to do something, all of a sudden I need to switch to AutoCAD or some other Windows only program. Sure, I'll quit everything and reboot. It would be silly to have an easy way to switch to Windows without having to reboot. Yeah.
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#17 2006-07-04 9:28 pm
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Sorry about that, I'm referencing the fact that it would be nice to have one OS which ran everything. Under one common GUI, et al.
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#18 2006-07-04 9:55 pm
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Well that would be nice too, but having both running at the same time would be the next best thing. Obviously there could be dual-duty. The same OS able to be booted both within OS X (Off the partition. Not off a fake "partition" file like VPC and Parallels.) and separtately on one of the other processors. (I mean really, can't some computer company come up with a technology to split a dual processor into two separate ones and have each do the duty of a different set of commands. i.e. OS X using one and Windows using another. Or two each for Quad processor computers. I refuse to believe it couldn't be possible.)
I hope I was clear. Plus how cool would it be to really be able to use a cube effect to go between OS X and Windows and be able to brag to your Windows zealot friends. Huh? Huh? It's be neato boss cool if you ask me.
Plus, gamers would be happy.
Another feature they could do is make dual monitor computers run one OS on one side and another on the other with an intuitive switch between function. (Key press would send the mouse and keyboard control from one OS to the other on the other screen. Like a virtual KVM switch.)
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#19 2006-07-04 9:57 pm
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Re: The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
titok16 wrote:
Sorry about that, I'm referencing the fact that it would be nice to have one OS which ran everything. Under one common GUI, et al.
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#21 2006-07-07 1:12 pm
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MacBoy4139 wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:
Pariah wrote:
My bet is against Apple incorporateing virtualization into the OS. I think they will leave it to 3rd parties.
Parrallels? They already changed both there commercial and their site to mention Parrallels and not BootCamp.
That is really weird. I wonder why they did that?
I could of swore i read a while back that apple had actually gotten a patent for what Parrallels did.
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#22 2006-07-07 3:03 pm
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Re: The Best PC To Demo Vista According To Microsoft(from Macbidouille)
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That dude looks totally psycho. Like he should be in a Paris fashion show totally psycho.
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#23 2006-07-07 3:11 pm
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Pariah wrote:
My bet is against Apple incorporateing virtualization into the OS. I think they will leave it to 3rd parties.
I think that would be a safe bet. Industry analyst Charles Wolf recently talked to Phil Schiller:
Article wrote:
“I am so pleased to see [Apple promoting Parallels],” said Wolf. “I had a talk with Phil Schiller at the opening of the 5th Avenue Apple Store, and I asked him the question, ‘will Apple include a virtualization solution in [the next version of Mac OS X] Leopard.’ He said ‘absolutely not, the R&D would be prohibitive and we’re not going to do it. Our solution is dual boot.’ When I saw Parallels come out, I thought Apple would dis it, but this page suggests that Apple will actively support it.”
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