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#26 2006-08-02 6:29 am

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Re: Is this really it?

Some how I believe that if that pic had the device with a black sceen, everyone here would still spit on it and bash it. The thing about the interface that gets me is that there are so many frames whithin frames.

Its like

The face of the device here with physical buttons

Then a frame for the interface with more buttons

Then there is a frame with some info and one big play button at the bottom...
(I tried to add more quote frames but I guess the board has a limit)
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One more frame for the info/catagory content.
_____________________________________________________________
And FINALLY, the last tiny-little-cramp-assed frame that has the actual music content you get to choose from.

They make it so complicated when it can be very simplistic. Instead of making a new screen for each section, they decide to cram all that stuff into one screen which leaves very little space for the actual music selection. And, why would you repeat the big ass play button when you already have a physical one on the device?

But now that I think about it, you can go overboard with the new screens as well. Thats why I hate Motorola phones.. theres so many screens until you find what you are looking for. Oh well, I can complain all I want but nothing will change.

I still think the actual device doesn't look too bad. It's kinda like an iPod/360 thing.. (not that I'm a fan of the 360 at all.)
But the interface is just garbage.

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#27 2006-08-02 7:01 am

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Re: Is this really it?

Once again, can someone link to the site? Is it a mockup or not?

That interface is apparently a stylus interface. Is that actually the case?

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#28 2006-08-02 7:58 am

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Re: Is this really it?

I think if we remove that ms/win icon and replace it with a smily Apple logo, at least half who post and think this design is crap will change their mind.

me? I think it is a ok design, have to see the real product in order to tell how well will a phone/sat radio/mp3 combination work together as one unit, but I really do hope that next version of "real ipod" have cel phone build in, a cel phone is one item we carry all the time, if Apple can combine a cel phone with "real full ipod-Nano" in one unit, it will be a great product.


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#29 2006-08-05 3:22 am

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Re: Is this really it?

Aqua OS X wrote:

Would you mind linking to the article.

Is that the real UI, or a mock up? That UI would require a stylus.

Sorry, I linked to a picture put I had based my hysterics on a few articles.

Here is a good summary:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/21/zune … -yet-know/

I am 99% certain that the screen is either bogus or merely for testing, surely it's based on the ce/mobile platform but there has been no mention of a touch screen that I have found.

Sounds like they are thinking outside the box and shifting the paradigm....again. Like somebody at Microsoft said "What would make the zune better than an iPod?...I know, more features!"

They didn't see a hole in the market, they saw a trend and are trying to climb on board. Their stragety sounds like they are going to try to switch as many users as possible and then lock them into their service. Gadget freaks will buy them and then become bored a week later and of course people who believe what they see on TV will buy them and be confounded from day one.

The ipod is THE iPod because of it's ease of use and approachability.

An iPod parasite rather than an iPod killer me thinks.

P.S. I'm not  bashing the design, although the painted surface definately gives it a cheap cell-phone quality.

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#30 2006-08-05 2:32 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Looks like an iPod.  Won't have as much music selection, methinks, but it will have better support for onboard third-party programs... oh wait, it *will actually have* support for onboard third party softwares.  There, already got something the pod doesn't, and seemingly won't ever, have.

 

#31 2006-08-06 4:13 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Those images are complete fakes.  If they are real, I will eat my left shoe.


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#32 2006-08-06 4:15 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

why the left?

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#33 2006-08-06 4:51 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Left shoes are more tasty.
And the iChat Mobile is a fake. It was a rolled up printout... while scrutinizing the interface so much nobody bothered to check that the screen was completely out of whack and the whole thing had no dimension.

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#34 2006-08-06 7:51 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

DudetheCreator wrote:

Looks like an iPod.  Won't have as much music selection, methinks, but it will have better support for onboard third-party programs... oh wait, it *will actually have* support for onboard third party softwares.  There, already got something the pod doesn't, and seemingly won't ever, have.

Linux has been ported to the iPod, so actually it does (just not out of the box).


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#35 2006-08-06 8:55 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

pcguy wrote:

I think if we remove that ms/win icon and replace it with a smily Apple logo, at least half who post and think this design is crap will change their mind.

Cart and the horse again, PCGuy.  If it had an Apple logo on it, odds are it would be better designed.


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#36 2006-08-07 7:11 am

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Re: Is this really it?

Czachorski wrote:

pcguy wrote:

I think if we remove that ms/win icon and replace it with a smily Apple logo, at least half who post and think this design is crap will change their mind.

Cart and the horse again, PCGuy.  If it had an Apple logo on it, odds are it would be better designed.

odds are it would be a interesting design


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#37 2006-08-07 9:10 am

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Re: Is this really it?

Noone actually is interested in that last posted picture as an actual design for a phone are they? Its gotta be about the same dimensions as a medium-small TV remote, which noone wants to have jammed in thier pocket when they are walking around. and if its not that size, then some of those control buttons (like the volume +/-) would be WAY too small to use without hitting other buttons constantly..


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#38 2006-08-07 10:09 am

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Re: Is this really it?

zerocool90 wrote:

Noone actually is interested in that last posted picture as an actual design for a phone are they? Its gotta be about the same dimensions as a medium-small TV remote, which noone wants to have jammed in thier pocket when they are walking around. and if its not that size, then some of those control buttons (like the volume +/-) would be WAY too small to use without hitting other buttons constantly..

Beyond the fact that it's not real, yeah, it won't sell, not only due to the physical dimensions, but several other key bits that I mentioned before, like the awkwardness of the keypad, being too narrow and cylindrical for a normal sized hand, no clickwheel, etc.

If we're going to see an iPod phone designed in house, it's going to have the clickwheel, one way or the other.


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#39 2006-08-07 12:29 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Donkey Butter wrote:

why the left?

he's a liberal.  tongue


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#40 2006-08-07 5:52 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Phydeaux wrote:

If we're going to see an iPod phone designed in house, it's going to have the clickwheel, one way or the other.

As much as I despise the clickwheel, a rotary cellphone is just awesome.


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#41 2006-08-07 6:41 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

DudetheCreator wrote:

Looks like an iPod.  Won't have as much music selection, methinks, but it will have better support for onboard third-party programs... oh wait, it *will actually have* support for onboard third party softwares.  There, already got something the pod doesn't, and seemingly won't ever, have.

Although support is a vague term, I'm pretty sure there are programs you can install on an iPod.

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#42 2006-08-07 6:49 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Yes, but first you have to install an entirely different operating system.


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#43 2006-08-07 7:48 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Oh well.

besides...

J.D.Hogg Wrote:

It can do nothing that one of a hundred other devices (devices that are often free with service activation) can't do...

I was referring to cellphones

It can do a lot of things the iPod can't, but people don't buy iPods for all the "things" they can do.

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#44 2006-09-04 3:33 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Form a story posted on the MacAddict homepage:

""Microsoft had hinted of an all-new design from the ground up, but from our analysis, it appears that the Zune is essentially a repackaged Toshiba Gigabeat that has seen limited success," said Wu in a report.

Microsoft recently announced the Zune will be manufactured by Toshiba."

Underwhelming Zune

The gigabeat:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/_assets/images/media/gigabeatLarge.jpg

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#45 2006-09-04 3:47 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Wow, that's ugly.


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#46 2006-09-04 6:03 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Arc wrote:

Phydeaux wrote:

If we're going to see an iPod phone designed in house, it's going to have the clickwheel, one way or the other.

As much as I despise the clickwheel, a rotary cellphone is just awesome.

I've been waiting eagerly for hardwheel rotary and the ability to do sms messaging via transcribing into text through morse code for a very long time.


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#47 2006-09-05 12:49 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

As usual, M$oft is pulling out all the stops to create buzz about this new product:

"So what do you find at comingzune.com? An amateurish animation of a man petting a rabbit. When it's done, you have the chance to sign up for e-mail alerts.

It's so inane that you e-mail the link to all your friends, just to tell them what a lame strategy Microsoft has for this new thing. Which is called Zune.

Mission accomplished.

http://www.startribune.com/389/story/648024.html

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#48 2006-09-05 4:59 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

I don't see anything terribly wrong with it, but then again, I've never been a part of the "OMFG mICRO$OFT is teh sukk!!!" crowd.

However, Apple would clean this design up a good bit, if it wasn't a total fake.


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#49 2006-09-05 6:36 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

Oh yee of little faith.
http://www.komotv.com/news/images/microsoft_zune_082506.jpg

Filing Reveals Details About Microsoft's 'Zune'

"-the device will let people share songs, photos, music playlists and other content with others via a wireless connection. One feature will allow a person to act as a DJ, sending music to up to four other devices."

Well there is a new feature(as far as I know).

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#50 2006-09-05 10:08 pm

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Re: Is this really it?

mo' ron wrote:

Donkey Butter wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

Any mp3 player will look like an iPod from a distance

this doesn't look like an iPod
this doesn't look like an iPod
this doesn't look like an iPod
this doesn't look like an iPod
this doesn't look like an iPod

it's the wanna-be click wheel, white color and big screen that are reminiscent of an iPod.

Why did you just post 5 consecutive pictures of ipods? confused

to proove the iPod wasn't a chicken?confused
Oh! wrong joke.big_smileblush


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