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Ahh, the green party, otherwise known as

Getting
Republicans
Elected
Every
November

kb5zhh wrote:

Gatchaman wrote:

Ahh, the green party, otherwise known as

Getting
Republicans
Elected
Every
November

Just because that was Nader's stated goal doesn't mean we should believe it.

True.
Add in the fact that he only got 463,653 votes nationwide.
Nobody has come close as a third party except for Perot, he got major numbers. Even then, if I recall, exit polling showed he took from both and didn't change the outcome.

EXACTLY!
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But you see, America is a nation of visual learners...we had pie charts, and graphs and a funny vice president "WHO AM I? WHAT AM I DOING HERE? ZZZZZZ...(falls asleep in debate)."

That is classic, Nader, the best guy for the job is too spirited, he's a verbal teacher, and he's right. Then again, he's also lebonnese..(spelling sorry)...so thats a minus on the southern united states....

Whatever....I had blueberry pie last night, it was fabulous, and the stupid waitress put sour cream on top instead of whipped cream...she got 50cents for tip...that was just for the bussboy.

They want run in the mill, common man appeal....like George W. Bush!

*George says he's Christian (when its an election year),

*George says he wants to protect the lives of the unborn (so he can send em' to Iraq!)

*George says he served his country...(no he was AWOL half of the time)

*George says he wants to encourage kids to attend private schools (where teachers aren't unionized)

*George says he's just like you and me...(minus the IQ gap of about 120 on our part)

*George says he grew up in a normal family....HE'S A OIL TYCOON! HELLO!


I mean: intelligent, cautious, helpful, progressive, open, informed, and literate greens are completely off the radar for the folks who vote...obviously so because they voted for bush twice.

The Party is a perfect set-up if it was owned by the Republican party. They'd know that by having a third party, a progressive environmentalist party on the ballot, that the left wing college and aging hippies would drift towards that vote instead of the traditional democrats...and by doing so steal a 10% vote from the democrats...it might not go to the republicans directly but it wouldn't go to the democrats for sure....

But thats too sneaky.

Democrats allege voter petition fraud in Santorum / Casey Senate race.   

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001348.php

Democrats say that more than 69,000 of the approximately 100,000 signatures gathered by Santorum staffers and JSM, Inc., a private company hired by the Greens with Republican money, are fraudulent.

PSA

charon wrote:

Jaligard wrote:

More loopholes in the campaign finance system we have. If you can't give more than $2100 to one candidate, giving money to a third party candidate that will draw votes away from him is just as good.

Say it with me: Publicly-financed campaigns.

I don't get how that's a "loophole" since campaign finance regulation is not designed (or at least isn't supposed to be, for constitutional reasons) to control who may support which candidates.  It's an anti-corruption measure, which doesn't relate to this behavior.

In any case, with respect to this phenomenon, the problem is our voting system, not our campaign finance system--unless the "problem" is that the public can directly choose which candidates to support.

We're talking about dishonest behavior that isn't illegal and probably shouldn't be.

The overall problem is that money should be influential in our voting system, but it is. And that's why I would like to see publicly-financed campaigns.

Although this is never going to happen in a hundred years, I wish we would reform our voting process. Voting for the candidate you like should not be a vote for the candidate you hate. Single selection voting does not assure majority rule.

Multiple selection voting would put an end to this garbage by allowing one's vote to count for secondary choices should their primary choices not win.  People could actually vote for Green or Libertarian candidates without assisting someone they loath.

smurf ya it would be nice.