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#1 2006-08-01 8:40 pm
Junk mail is ruining my life
I've had a certain email address since the days of iTools. I registered it on the very first day that iTools was introduced. Now, in the last few months, I've been hit with my first wave of junkmail ever. Try as I might, I can't convince my filter to catch it. The messages are all different and all junk... the only similarity is their formatting. They come from different addresses from different websites and have no link to follow to "unsubscribe".
Lately, I've been bouncing the emails to hopefully remove myself from whatever list has caused this garbage. Anybody have any recommendations? Or is this email account finally bunk?
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
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#2 2006-08-01 8:47 pm
- Tallgeese
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
You need more than one email address, one that your friends and family know and one that you use to sign up on forums and download software and watch porn and stuff.
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#3 2006-08-01 9:03 pm
Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
Heh, well, I have six email addresses... plus my aliases. I've been trying to phase this one out for a while, but it still gets used sometimes.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
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#4 2006-08-01 9:28 pm
- ignis fatuusz
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
I just hope that the recent .mac "outage" had something to do with an impending announcement of a revamp of the .Mac "services" that I shell out $99 a year for. I have several .mac email addresses that I use, and in the last couple of months, they've been HAMMERED with spam. I'm very careful about who gets these addresses, and they're not posted publicly anywhere. I get better filtering on the crap addresses I have at Gmail and Yahoo than I get with the "premium" ones I pay for that end with "@mac.com", and I'm pretty pissed off about it.
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#5 2006-08-01 10:01 pm
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
JunkMatcher is pretty good. Run it once to get it going. That's it.
Gmail is definitely very good at filtering.
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#6 2006-08-01 10:13 pm
- mahakali
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
If you bounce it, you'll get more. Learnt this from experience.
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#7 2006-08-01 10:21 pm
Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
i concur. i've been getting much more email in the last few weeks than i am willing to accept.
google just about has me convinced to switch over to them completely, leaving .Mac in the dust.
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#9 2006-08-01 11:24 pm
Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
In the past month i've noticed a huge spike in the amount of spam i get on a daily basis on all e-mail accounts besides my the server i pay for with my own domain.
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#10 2006-08-01 11:25 pm
Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
I use SpamAssassin.
I white list people in my address book and temporarily whitelist domains of people I'm doing business with - and have Spam Assassin set to be harsh.
About once a week - I glance through what got labeled as spam, and any false positives (rare) get whitelisted.
Some spam still gets through, when it does - I either blacklist the e-mail address, or write a procmail filter specifically to catch the content.
It's a little work, but it greatly greatly reduces the noise in my inbox.
Oh - because SpamAssassin is a performance pig, procmail filters stuff like mailing list subscriptions into their appropriate folders before SpamAssassin is used - so SpamAssassin only gets run on what I don't have a specific procmail filter for.
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#11 2006-08-01 11:51 pm
Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
I have 8 email accounts I use, and for 3 of those accounts I have close to 20 or so aliases.
all but 3 of those accounts are public (non public are my private email, university email, and a "special" support email).
The other 5 are all various public email addresses (2 personal emails made public, 1 sales email, and 2 public support emails)
now, how I keep my spam under control.... I don't.
My university email is used strictly for school related business, and it gets tons of email every day because my school gives me tons every day.
The private email isn't published anywhere, and is only given out to a few people and to people I have official business with (caltsar@domain.com just isn't quite as official as something like f.lastname@domain.com), plus I have any message sent to that address come up on growl as an "emergency" item.
The special support email is just an unclogged way for anyone I do work for to get a hold of me if there any issues.
None of these private addresses get any junk mail. My public addresses on the other hand get tons of it. Perhaps 300 to 800 messages a day between them. This is caused by all the multiple copies of spam that get sent to them through the aliases, and the fact that I've given up and just posted these emails as straight links (Spam bots love me!). However, only 20-30 of these emails see my inbox (excluding legitimate messages), and all but 1 or 2 are immediatly filtered into Mail's junk box. I do it like this:
First, on the two servers I have, SpamAssassin is enabled (gmail, and the university have their own system that I have no control over), and I have it set to send anything with more than 7 points to blackhole@rollinit.com (a catchall email account used for monitoring). it's a very simple filter that catches abour 90% of the spam at the server and has never flagged a message wrong. Apple's Mail seems to catch the rest by following its own rules and also looking at the spam assassin flag that's put into the email headers (seems to generally put them in the junk box if it's 4.5 points or higher). This tends to take care of the rest and almost never filters wrong.
Now, unfortunately, .mac (or iTools) doesn't have that kind of control over email and junk filtering. the best you can do is play with Mail's rules until it works. Go to the View menu and select Message -> Long headers. Look for patterns and any spam filter flags you can find. Anything that you can find to help fine tune your rules should help you get rid of the junk mail problem almost entirely.
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#13 2006-08-02 12:17 am
- thume
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
I started getting spam for the first time at my .mac address just a couple of weeks ago too.
The address only goes out to friends, family and a few work people.
It's always for undervalued stocks.
I get a couple a day and I mark them all, I would have though mail's "learning" filter would have "learnt" them by now considering the content is almost exaclty the same each time.
Gmail definitely has better spam filtering.
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#14 2006-08-02 12:26 am
Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
Mine are for undervalued stocks as well... that and other financial crap. The fact that we've all had this influx of the same crap in the same timeframe makes me wonder.
Some company probably just harvested every @mac.com address it could find. We're all screwed.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
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#15 2006-08-02 1:33 am
Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
titok16 wrote:
I have 800 email addresses and over 10 intranets
tito
And not even the spammers want to talk to you.
How sad.
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#18 2006-08-02 3:37 am
- tomfoolery
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
I use titomail and it's great. When they detect antihammer e-mail, they deploy ninja cats to wreak revenge on the sender. Its teh winnarest.
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#19 2006-08-02 9:12 am
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
I migrated my motly collection of Hotmail, Yahoo, Spymac and some others all over to a collection of addresses on Gmail and OwnMail. Gmail has truely excellent spam filtering and Ownmail is very good.
The interesting thing is that with those mail servers even my most public addesses get no more spam than my most private.
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#20 2006-08-02 9:45 am
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
I must have no life.
6 email accounts.. 2 of which are alias's on .mac
my spam email that actually get's into where I can see it is about 1 or 2 a day.
but the filter has scooped up as many as 50 or so in a day.
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no add-on filtering... just the Mail running pretty harsh.
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#21 2006-08-02 9:56 am
- mo' ron
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
Mail's junk filter works really well for me. It has caught most of my spam for the past few months now, with the occasional 1 or 2 slipping through every now and then.
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#22 2006-08-02 10:08 am
- tomfoolery
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
I also have accounts with GMX from 1997 which receive no more than 2 junk messages a day. Unfortunately my work e-mail address, which has been spam-free since I joined over 1.5 yrs ago, has in the past fortnight been increasingly inundated with messages such as this:
From: Roger.london
Subject: sara
To the beloved
archive password: 468506
Each enters my mailbox with a substitute attachment, advising that the server has detected and removed a virus. Our corporate spam filter is totally useless (Clearswift Mimesweeper) - it lets all the smurf through, and blocks e-mails from people you've been communicating with for years. Bravo!
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#23 2006-08-02 10:16 am
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
mo' ron wrote:
Mail's junk filter works really well for me. It has caught most of my spam for the past few months now, with the occasional 1 or 2 slipping through every now and then.
Mine has caught a total of zero spam for approximately 1 year now. It is near useless.
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#24 2006-08-02 10:22 am
- tomfoolery
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
NAG wrote:
mo' ron wrote:
Mail's junk filter works really well for me. It has caught most of my spam for the past few months now, with the occasional 1 or 2 slipping through every now and then.
Mine has caught a total of zero spam for approximately 1 year now. It is near useless.
Mail consistently "traps" my Amazon order confirmations. It never catches the friggin' advertisement/promo e-mails they churn out though 
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#25 2006-08-02 10:57 am
- Macskeeball
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Re: Junk mail is ruining my life
I have a Yahoo account that I use for nothing but a spam account (as well as another IM service to have in Adium). My real account is on Gmail, and I have Mail's filter and the free JunkMatcher as an add-on. When spam does get through (quite rare), I mark it as spam locally and report it to Gmail. This works pretty well for me.
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