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#1 2006-09-03 11:18 pm

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Settle this Please...

Can the Processor in the Mac Mini featuring an Intel processor, be upgraded to a Core 2 Duo? Im trying to convince my mom to buy one.

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#2 2006-09-03 11:24 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

I'm trying to remember if the Core Solo, Core Duo and Core 2 Duo all use Socket 775.

But even if they all do, I don't know if the mini logic board provides enough power for a Core 2 Duo since it's requires more wattage than the Core Duo.


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#3 2006-09-03 11:27 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

Yep there was a Mac Mini upgraded to a Core 2 Duo.  Quite the screamer.

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#4 2006-09-03 11:37 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

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#5 2006-09-03 11:47 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

Don't know how crediable the links are, what was the Pentium 4 replacement suppose to be?


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#6 2006-09-04 7:05 am

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Re: Settle this Please...

Anything is possible, however if you ask me if that is possible for a average person to upgrade the cpu, my gut feeling back by yrs of Apple's computer history tell me "noway".


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#7 2006-09-04 7:23 am

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Re: Settle this Please...

pcguy wrote:

Anything is possible, however if you ask me if that is possible for a average person to upgrade the cpu, my gut feeling back by yrs of Apple's computer history tell me "noway".

well in this case you'd be wrong. or at least wrong about the apple part. upgrading a CPU in an iMac or Mac Mini is just as easy as a PC.

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#8 2006-09-04 7:58 am

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Re: Settle this Please...

I don't think the Core Duo mac mini comes in a 775 and that is the only cpu of the core2 duo that I have seen.  If I had to guess right now I would say no unless intel releases a 478 core2 duo.


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#9 2006-09-04 9:17 am

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Re: Settle this Please...

If you can upgrade the RAM by yourself in a Mini, you can swap out the Core Duo for a Core 2 Duo.


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#10 2006-09-04 9:38 am

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Re: Settle this Please...

MacBoy4139 wrote:

If you can upgrade the RAM by yourself in a Mini, you can swap out the Core Duo for a Core 2 Duo.

I don't know, you might be right, but if that is true, I will eat that Core2Duo with milk for breakfast!
If that is true, that will be the first cpu in a Mac that can be swap out by average user with no major mod.
If that is true, This will also be the end of Apple computer, who would want to spend 1K-2K for a new Mac every 2yr when u can swap a new cpu in for 1/5 the price.

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#11 2006-09-04 10:01 am

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Re: Settle this Please...

pcguy wrote:

MacBoy4139 wrote:

If you can upgrade the RAM by yourself in a Mini, you can swap out the Core Duo for a Core 2 Duo.

I don't know, you might be right, but if that is true, I will eat that Core2Duo with milk for breakfast!
If that is true, that will be the first cpu in a Mac that can be swap out by average user with no major mod.
If that is true, This will also be the end of Apple computer, who would want to spend 1K-2K for a new Mac every 2yr when u can swap a new cpu in for 1/5 the price.

Wrong, wrong and wrong.  The CPU in every Power Mac ever released is user-upgradable.  On the box to my Power Mac 7300, it says in black and white "Upgradable to future PowerPC processors."  They can't possibly be any more specific.  Sure enough, Sonnet makes an entire line of drop-in CPU replacements for virtually every Mac ever made with a slot or socket-based CPU, with models ranging from LC, Centris, Color Classic, Quadra, Perform, PowerBooks, iMacs, Beige G3 AIOs, G4 Cube and every Power Mac ever made, thet list goes on...  In fact, probably 75% of every model Apple has ever produced has a usser-upgradable CPU.  With the Mac mini, and presumably the Mac Pro, that list only grows longer.  So, will you like to eat that CPU with salt, or will you take it straight?


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#12 2006-09-04 10:35 am

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Re: Settle this Please...

pcguy wrote:

MacBoy4139 wrote:

If you can upgrade the RAM by yourself in a Mini, you can swap out the Core Duo for a Core 2 Duo.

I don't know, you might be right, but if that is true, I will eat that Core2Duo with milk for breakfast!
If that is true, that will be the first cpu in a Mac that can be swap out by average user with no major mod.
If that is true, This will also be the end of Apple computer, who would want to spend 1K-2K for a new Mac every 2yr when u can swap a new cpu in for 1/5 the price.

Been paying attention much?

Ever since the G3 the towers have been upgradeable through ZIF slots. Later PowerMacs used odd posts to hold the processors but 3rd parties did make upgrades for it. I think the only G4 tower that was limited was the MDD because of the DDR bus attatching to non-DDR processors.

G5s were the same way - they were upgradeable but there were never 3rd party upgrades made.

This is one reason to really be excited about the Intel switch is that we're finally back to the point we were at with the older machines - we can upgrade our processors again. Apple survived that - it'll survive Intel just fine.

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#13 2006-09-04 11:25 am

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Re: Settle this Please...

pcguy wrote:

MacBoy4139 wrote:

If you can upgrade the RAM by yourself in a Mini, you can swap out the Core Duo for a Core 2 Duo.

I don't know, you might be right, but if that is true, I will eat that Core2Duo with milk for breakfast!
If that is true, that will be the first cpu in a Mac that can be swap out by average user with no major mod.
If that is true, This will also be the end of Apple computer, who would want to spend 1K-2K for a new Mac every 2yr when u can swap a new cpu in for 1/5 the price.

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again, it's already been done. you can swap the iMac and Mac Mini's processor just as easily as a regular PC's. i haven't checked yet on the Mac Pro and it's unfortunately not true of the laptops where the chips are soldered to the board.

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#14 2006-09-04 11:45 am

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Re: Settle this Please...

I bet gozer would know if he were around.

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#15 2006-09-04 1:13 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

Let see from my personal experience

Can I just buy a drop in cpu to replace my

1. iBook G3?
2. TiBook 800?
3. G4 Cube 450?
4. QS G4 800?
5. PM 1.25?
6. G5 1.6?
7 mbp 2ghz

instead of a custom engineer/build broad-patch that cost 3x the cost of a bare cpu.


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#16 2006-09-04 1:27 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

Hell until lately "standard" PCs weren't always easily CPU upgradable. CPUs were usually soldered down on all laptops/notebooks and often still are. Additionally there was the exercise in frustration known as jumpers. One wrong jumper setting in an upgrade could fry the CPU faster than my mom fries garlic wings & cauliflower and quiite possibly the board and/or any connected components in the process.

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#17 2006-09-04 2:14 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

C. Ives wrote:

I bet gozer would know if he were around.

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#18 2006-09-04 2:18 pm

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Standard wintel wasn't easy to upgrade the cpu at all, that is why I am surprise when there is info/talk here of "easy" to replace cpu for Mac, this is just not good information to give.

Easy to upgrade cpu in wintel world is those that is "generic" mb such as the one I mention above, and those broad have done away with "jumper" upgrade about 5 yrs ago and have since gone into pnp-bios which is not difficult to set, for those who don't want to "overclock" fry their mb=whatever, just set it to autodetect and it is pretty much dummy proof.


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#19 2006-09-04 2:35 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

I've seen plenty of el cheapo jumper reliant mothertboards within the last 5 year but yes they've been getting less and less prevalent in that time frame (Thank God!). That said, the D & Core series architectures are so far the first desktop boards I've yet to see a single jumper reliant configuration available for.

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#20 2006-09-04 6:18 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

pcguy wrote:

Let see from my personal experience

Can I just buy a drop in cpu to replace my

1. iBook G3?
2. TiBook 800?
3. G4 Cube 450?
4. QS G4 800?
5. PM 1.25?
6. G5 1.6?
7 mbp 2ghz

instead of a custom engineer/build broad-patch that cost 3x the cost of a bare cpu.

no. but he asked about the intel mac mini. in which case the answer is 'yes'.

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#21 2006-09-04 10:09 pm

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ok Gozer, so can you promise me that if I buy a mac Mini tomorrow, I will be able to drop in whatever Intel come up with in their Core2Duo line this time next year, as long as it use the same socket?


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#22 2006-09-04 10:27 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

sure, what do i care if your machine fries?

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#23 2006-09-04 10:31 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/04/ … 1938.shtml

it can damned well be upgraded to the current core 2 duo which is what the original poster asked.

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#24 2006-09-04 11:35 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

pcguy wrote:

Let see from my personal experience

Can I just buy a drop in cpu to replace my

1. iBook G3?

No, it's soldered.

2. TiBook 800?

No, it's soldered.

3. G4 Cube 450?

Yes.

4. QS G4 800?

Yes.

5. PM 1.25?

Yes.

6. G5 1.6?

Yes. (as of now, you can only get them on eBay)

7 mbp 2ghz

No, it's soldered.

There you have it.  4 out of 7 of your Macs have drop-in CPU upgrades available.  Again, would you like some salt to wash down that CPU? 

Since you havn't done so already, point your browser over to http://www.sonnettech.com/

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#25 2006-09-04 11:41 pm

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Re: Settle this Please...

gozer wrote:

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/04/20060412011938.shtml

it can damned well be upgraded to the current core 2 duo which is what the original poster asked.

This logic and reason you use is amazing.  Do you have a newsletter?

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