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#26 2006-09-29 4:13 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

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No, sorry. I am still going to have to disagree with you there. I am, for a fact, incapable of lying. Well, I suppose I could do it, but I have such a guilt complex, that within 30 minutes of telling a lie (even small white lies) that I become irrevocably ill until I tell the truth. Since I hate being sick more than I hate anatomy class (which is something I utterly despire) I don't lie.

I think guys like the idea that girls fall in to that catagory "at one point or another" so it can be something for them to blame to make up for their ineptitude at something. Because it's America and we can't blame ourselves for anything, it's always someone else's fault, of course.

I'm sorry you're obviously kinda bitter about the whole relationship thing - hopefully you'll find someone worthwhile one day and you'll see what I'm talking about.

everyone's capable of lying, it's just a matter of how big, how often and how quick someone is to correct their lie whenever they tell one that differs between people.  i don't use the fact that girls fit that mold as an excuse to blame a girl, there's always something else more specific to pin it on, maybe even me.

but the fact is that girls are usually involved in the reason, but they don't think anything is their fault.  seriously, the girl told him she wanted to her "me time" and then started going out with another guy, then wonders why he doesn't want to be friends with her?  and the saddest part is that she fails to understand why he feels the way he does, which is why i say they basically act oblivious to the situation and feel no remorse or part of the blame in why things wind up like they do.  that's what i'm getting at.  i'm not bitter about it because it didn't happen to me, but at the same time, i don't like seeing this kind of crap happen because i know it could.


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#27 2006-09-29 6:26 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

keprydak wrote:

No, sorry. I am still going to have to disagree with you there. I am, for a fact, incapable of lying. Well, I suppose I could do it, but I have such a guilt complex, that within 30 minutes of telling a lie (even small white lies) that I become irrevocably ill until I tell the truth. Since I hate being sick more than I hate anatomy class (which is something I utterly despire) I don't lie.

Self deception! And clearly you have to have told a lie because you know you feel sick if you do. And you know the time frame in which you would correct yourself.
In addition; Have you ever thought that some one looked fat, and then they asked you if they looked fat, and you said 'no'? I'd be willing to bet you have. And if you had, did you go back within 30 min, and say, "hey, you're a fat ass".  If not ,that would be a lie.

keprydak wrote:

I think guys like the idea that girls fall in to that catagory "at one point or another" so it can be something for them to blame to make up for their ineptitude at something. Because it's America and we can't blame ourselves for anything, it's always someone else's fault, of course.

Clearly you can't blame yourself for anything. Because you demonize men, on every front, from you holy tabernacle of empirical evidence.

keprydak wrote:

I'm sorry you're obviously kinda bitter about the whole relationship thing - hopefully you'll find someone worthwhile one day and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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#28 2006-09-29 7:26 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

i love girls. someone has to do secretary work.


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#29 2006-09-29 8:06 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

I just love girls.  In general.  As opposed to boys.


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#30 2006-09-29 8:25 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

Duly noted.

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#31 2006-09-29 8:27 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

Figured I'd make sure it was on the record and all.


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#32 2006-10-01 12:11 am

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Re: what do you think it means?

Ice Cream Man wrote:

Self deception! And clearly you have to have told a lie because you know you feel sick if you do. And you know the time frame in which you would correct yourself.
In addition; Have you ever thought that some one looked fat, and then they asked you if they looked fat, and you said 'no'? I'd be willing to bet you have. And if you had, did you go back within 30 min, and say, "hey, you're a fat ass".  If not ,that would be a lie.

that's what i'm saying.  everyone's told a lie before, no matter how small.  especially in cases like that where you're still trying to be nice to the person and not hurt their feelings, but regardless of your intentions, you're still blatantly lying to their face.  it's not the same line as lying about cheating to your boyfriend or something like that, but it's still a lie.

Ice Cream Man wrote:

I'm sorry you're obviously kinda bitter about the whole relationship thing - hopefully you'll find someone worthwhile one day and you'll see what I'm talking about.  It's not him, it's his friend.

yeah, i'm assuming she figured that out by now.  marquis wouldn't stop whining about his relationship problems to me, so i put it on here and since i know none of you know him, he can read all your responses and get another viewpoint since he doesn't really listen to what i'm telling him.  he's one of those kind of guys that wants to hear a bunch of people responses to a problem and then choose the best solution, rather than just listening to a close friend's solution.  i don't blame him for doing that, but at the same time, i don't want to sit here and have my ear talked off about some girl that i still have to talk to.  just for the record, i think she screwed him over by pulling that crap and he has reason to be mad at her.  i know i would be.


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#33 2006-10-04 7:12 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

not more responses.  i guess the point has been conceded or someone has learned something new about themself.


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#34 2006-10-04 9:07 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

i agree


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#35 2006-10-04 11:20 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

I lost interest.


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#36 2006-10-05 2:22 am

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Re: what do you think it means?

yankees4life wrote:

no more responses.  i guess the point has been conceded or someone has learned something new about themself.

keprydak wrote:

I lost interest.

sounds like the same thing to me.


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#37 2006-10-15 7:47 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

update:  check this smurf out.  i was going to hang out with my friend and when i show up to see him, he's sitting there with the girl that dumped him.  i just started laughing.

turns out she didn't really like the new guy she started dating after she broke up with him, so she came back to him and told him she made a big mistake.  he ate that crap up and caved under pressure and now he's back with her.  all i can do is laugh.  i'm just waiting to see if it'll happen again because if it happened before, i'm sure it can happen again.


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#38 2006-10-15 9:41 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

Pretty lame.  How does he know she won't do it again next time she finds someone new she digs?

It'll probably happen again, almost guaranteed.

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#39 2007-01-05 6:22 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

keprydak wrote:

therefore the moral of the story is?

i know this is an old thread, but there doesn't seem to be much action in here these days so i figured i'd throw in my perspective.

anyway, i'd say the moral is quite obvious. we can't examine relationships as "stereotypical girl meets stereotypical boy" the truth is, both sides do all of the things mentioned in this thread. often without knowing that they're doing it. i've seen boys make these mistakes, hell, i've made these mistakes, and i've certainly seen girls make these mistakes.

the point is, we all make them, and the only way a relationship will work is if both sides recognize this, and work to stop it. when a relationship breaks down, it is seldom solely the fault of one party.

on a side note, regarding being friends with your ex, i've always had the perspective that, if i dated someone, i must have cared about them in some manner. i clearly enjoyed their company. and i don't want to lose touch with people that can be that important to me. so i value the friendships i have with my ex-girlfriends. even if it often took a long time to get to a position where we were both comfortable seeing each other at social functions or with other people.

once you can hang out with your ex, while they're with their new significant other, and you're honestly, deep down, fine with it, or happy for them. then you know you can be friends.


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#40 2007-01-17 10:51 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

ok since all of these replys are from guys i suggest you get a girls perspective.....

ok so it could be 1 of 2 things.

number 1- she didnt want to hurt his feelings so she did the whole its not you its me thing.

number 2- she does care for him and hes been taking her for granted so shes trying to make him jealous so that when she comes back to him he will be nicer and wont take her for granted.

hint: girls like being treated like a princess and love compliments. but if your too eager or clingy we get tired. we like a little bit of a chase.

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#41 2007-01-17 10:55 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

Thanks for letting everyone know, we were all waiting on the edge of our seat for your analysis.


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#42 2007-01-17 11:02 pm

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Re: what do you think it means?

Tallgeese wrote:

Thanks for letting everyone know, we were all waiting on the edge of our seat for your analysis.

no problem

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#43 2007-01-18 5:20 am

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Re: what do you think it means?

Didn't read all the other responses yet, but heres my take :

Perhaps she didn't want to cheat on him, so she broke up first.

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#44 2007-01-18 7:17 am

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Re: what do you think it means?

ZiPPiTY DOO DAA wrote:

:snip:
hint: girls like being treated like a princess and love compliments. but if your too eager or clingy we get tired. we like a little bit of a chase.

:snip:

Yeah, and guys like blowjobs.
Doesn't mean it's gonna happen. wink

I know many girls do like the beginning of relationships the most, and that's usually the first thing that they will say is wrong with the relationship. That there's something "missing". Nothing's missing, it's just evolving, and it takes a bit for women to appreciate that.

But to make up for that, men are dumb.

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