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And while it's not exactly proof that a bomb really did go off, earthquake sensors did pick something up in North Korea.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

And while it's not exactly proof that a bomb really did go off, earthquake sensors did pick something up in North Korea.

hmm, a magnitude 4 would be the appropriate magnitude, and in a region of very low seismic activity. I wonder if anybody picked up any increase in radioactive particles anywhere.

sturner wrote:

Now will Bush accept that his policies were instrumental in allowing this to happen, by isolating N. Korea?

You mean its Bushies fault that Pakistani's sold them material and plans during the Clinton Admin?

maybe you meant to blame the other Bush?

You know, your blind hatred of Bush is misdirected and tiring.  It's clearly stifled your critical thinking.

Last edited by gas huffer (2006-10-09 12:38 am)

Well they certainly arent going to end up a great, prosperous, powerful, socialist nation thats for sure.

According to CNN their test was underground of only a 550 ton bomb. I don't know if that was a typo, but it seems pretty small by comparison to other nukes.

gas huffer wrote:

sturner wrote:

Now will Bush accept that his policies were instrumental in allowing this to happen, by isolating N. Korea?

You mean its Bushies fault that Pakistani's sold them material and plans during the Clinton Admin?

maybe you meant to blame the other Bush?

You know, your blind hatred of Bush is misdirected and tiring.  It's clearly stifled your critical thinking.

Please. Clinton and Bush Sr. did a considerable amount of negotiating with N. Korea with regards to nuclear non proliferation and long / short range missile development. When W. took office his administration halted unilateral negotiations as well as negotiation concessions they viewed as blackmail.

North Korea started up again with their bullsmurf and no diplomatic or military action was taken... Although we were more then willing to bomb the smurf out of a country intelligence was showing to be a considerably less dangerous threat.

resedit wrote:

It's the end of the world as we know it - I feel fine.

They were going to do it, regardless of who was president on this side of the Pacific.

It will be interesting to see how China reacts, beyond the talk.

I strongly disagree. I think they did it because the present administration reversed the Clinton policy of engaging North Korea by talking tough, rattling the proverbial sabre and very clearly hoping to affect a little passive regime change.

It's fine in my book. It's fine aslong other country's stay cool about it. China will do nothing. Japan will maybe try to build/get a Nuclair bomb themself.

If you want problems you get them

Last edited by Proost (2006-10-09 8:57 am)

BBC says the Russians measured between 10-15 kilotons, which would be a much more reasonable yield. The first US test was something like 19kt, hiroshima was 12-15ish, Nagasaki around there as well.

550 tons wouldn't even make sense, it would indicate the test was mostly a failure, or they tried to fake it by blowing up a ton of conventional explosives. Which I dont think would fool the US, you can bet the US is putting a huge amount of effort into moniterin this test, they should be able to tell if it was a nuke or not.

But hey, this means even more fear mongering can happen! Yay!

Proost wrote:

It's fine in my book. It's fine aslong other country's stay cool about it. China will do nothing. Japan will maybe try to build/get a Nuclair bomb themself.

If you want problems you get them

According to Wikipedia, Japan has everything they need to get a nuke (the technical knowledge and refineries) they just haven't actually done it. I wouldn't be surprised if they had some type of skunkworks on the back-burner, and have had a nuke all this time.

Last edited by mo' ron (2006-10-09 9:38 am)

The Bush administration hid its collective head in the sand and refused to talk to N. Korea for 6 years. Other than calling names, and military posturing. It is very conceivable that had they taken actions at least by talking and maintaining the policies that were in effect, that N. Korea would still be observing the Non-Proliferatin treaty.

In any case, thier policies can be viewed as ineffective, the Bush Administration is ultimately responsible, since they had the responsiblity for the last 6 years. Any other view would be suspect. Or they could whine, and say it's not their fault because Clinton had 8 years and they were only reversing his policies.

Last edited by sturner (2006-10-09 9:52 am)

gas huffer wrote:

sturner wrote:

Now will Bush accept that his policies were instrumental in allowing this to happen, by isolating N. Korea?

You mean its Bushies fault that Pakistani's sold them material and plans during the Clinton Admin?

maybe you meant to blame the other Bush?

You know, your blind hatred of Bush is misdirected and tiring.  It's clearly stifled your critical thinking.

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