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#1 2006-10-10 7:47 pm

crazyfrengy
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Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

I am looking for a good Mp3 player and my 256MB just doesn't do enough. Hey, it's not my fault the Final Fantasy VII Soundtrack takes up so much space!! I was wondering If I should get an iPod and what kind of iPod I should get? I also listen to lots of other kinds of music that also takes up a lot of space. My Music folder has taken up 2.7GB of space already, and I'm wondering where I should put all this Music?? And Next Post: Is the ipod Shuffle useless, I think so!!

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#2 2006-10-10 7:54 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

If you want to lug around your entire library, then yes, a shuffle is too small. If you can stand to only have a mere 16 hours of continuous 128kbps AAC available before you have to go to your computer and swap songs around, then a 1GB shuffle is perfectly adequate. And it's little. And cute.

Compared to the full-sized video ipods, the shuffle and nano have the added benefit of having no moving parts.

I have a 4GB iPod mini. Plenty of room for me. A 4 or 8 GB nano would probably be a fine fit for you. Or a Shuffle, if you're good at picking out in advance what you want to listen to for the next day.


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#3 2006-10-10 7:55 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

get a full sized iPod or the larger nano. put the Music in your iTunes library. The iPod Shuffle is useless if you have a lot of music and want to be able to browse, but useful for people who just want to have a handful of songs to take with them to, say, the gym.

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#4 2006-10-10 8:15 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

maxintosh wrote:

get a full sized iPod or the larger nano. put the Music in your iTunes library. The iPod Shuffle is useless if you have a lot of music and want to be able to browse, but useful for people who just want to have a handful of songs to take with them to, say, the gym.

Yup, the nano is great.

Although the shuffle is far from useless. My dad has one and he loves it. He doesn't care about choosing specific songs. He just skips one if he doesn't feel like listening to it.
He also only has about 60 songs, so he has plenty of room.
The shuffle is unmatched when it comes to portability.


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#5 2006-10-10 9:20 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

the shuffle can be a pain in the *** too though and it only holds a measly gigabyte. Shuffle is another one of those unneeded ideas from Apple. Just Like nintendo with Virtual Boy


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#6 2006-10-10 9:21 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

I agree with what w p h said about the nano and shuffle.  I would also recommend looking at how much more music you are going to accrue in the future.  My old 40Gb is great, although probably going to die soon.  Has lots of room for my 12+Gb collection, which should jump to 20 as soon as I get my CDs sent from home.

No moving parts are nice though...


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#7 2006-10-10 9:41 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

crazyfrengy wrote:

the shuffle can be a pain in the *** too though and it only holds a measly gigabyte. Shuffle is another one of those unneeded ideas from Apple. Just Like nintendo with Virtual Boy

Have you ever used one?
While it may be "a pain in the ***" for some people, it depends entirely on your needs. As I said earlier, it works perfectly for my dad.
He'd find the nano "a pain in the ***" because you can't just turn it on and press play the same way you can on a shuffle.


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#8 2006-10-10 10:48 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

ahem...


IT'S A FREAKIN' iPOD. NOT IPOD.

ahem...

that said, have fun with whatever you get.


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#9 2006-10-11 10:34 am

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

333imacman wrote:

ahem...


IT'S A FREAKIN' iPOD. NOT IPOD.

ahem...

that said, have fun with whatever you get.

ahem...


iPod, not iPOD


ahem....


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#10 2006-10-11 11:00 am

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

We're seriously considering getting the new shuffles.  That thing is awesome - built in clip, as big as a button, aluminum casing ...  I think it will sell extremely well.  But why would I want it?  It couldn't be a better work out music player. (At least for me).  If I work out for an hour, the shuffle holds more than enough songs for me, and it's so small and easy to operate when exercising.

Apple is making an iPod for everyone!

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#11 2006-10-11 12:29 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

crazyfrengy wrote:

the shuffle can be a pain in the *** too though and it only holds a measly gigabyte. Shuffle is another one of those unneeded ideas from Apple. Just Like nintendo with Virtual Boy

Could not disagree more.  I have one of the old ones (1gig) and it is great - for what I use it for.  I turn it on, push a button, and listen to music.  If I happen to not want to hear a song that comes on I hit next.

That's all I want.  I use it working out and I hook it to some speakers for background music at work.  It holds  a fair number of songs which I switch out whenever it needs charging.  There is a market for this type of player and Apple fills it.  You don't happen to be in that market, which is fine too.


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#12 2006-10-11 1:43 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

crazyfrengy wrote:

the shuffle can be a pain in the *** too though and it only holds a measly gigabyte. Shuffle is another one of those unneeded ideas from Apple. Just Like nintendo with Virtual Boy

I don't think it's an "unneeded idea" from Apple at all. As a runner, I can say that a Shuffle would be absolutely perfect. Don't need many songs. Don't need an LCD since you can't really look at it while you're running (saves battery life!). Extremely light weight and small (terribly important for running, especially sprinting).

Shuffle has a limited audience, but an audience that loves it.


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#13 2006-10-11 2:22 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

Get the Nano.  If cost is a big factor, apple store has deals on refurb models.


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#14 2006-10-11 3:09 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

Every time I read someone praising the shuffle because it's great to work out with, I feel a teensy weensy bit more lazy and actually gain a few lbs. YOU PEOPLE ARE MAKING ME FAT!

Kindly refrain.

tF

p.s. I bought my shuffle cos it was cheap. Somehow some moisture got into the end cap without my noticing and it rusted big time. My USB plug is now stained and the inside of the cap looks a mess. I since got a Mini, which I much prefer (and seems less prone to random oxidation). Unless you are gonna be working out with it, I'd second getting one with a screen - possibly a refurb Nano, as previously recommended.


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#15 2006-10-11 3:22 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

crazyfrengy wrote:

the shuffle can be a pain in the *** too though and it only holds a measly gigabyte. Shuffle is another one of those unneeded ideas from Apple. Just Like nintendo with Virtual Boy

What the hell are you talking about?! Virtual Boy was awesome!
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#16 2006-10-11 3:44 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

crazyfrengy wrote:

the shuffle can be a pain in the *** too though and it only holds a measly gigabyte. Shuffle is another one of those unneeded ideas from Apple. Just Like nintendo with Virtual Boy

Ah, the classic "I don't like it therefore it shouldn't exist" argument. Always a pleasure to encounter.

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#17 2006-10-11 3:59 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

w p h wrote:

crazyfrengy wrote:

the shuffle can be a pain in the *** too though and it only holds a measly gigabyte. Shuffle is another one of those unneeded ideas from Apple. Just Like nintendo with Virtual Boy

Have you ever used one?
While it may be "a pain in the ***" for some people, it depends entirely on your needs. As I said earlier, it works perfectly for my dad.
He'd find the nano "a pain in the ***" because you can't just turn it on and press play the same way you can on a shuffle.

Indeed, I have a 512meg Shuffle, and it suits me perfectly; anything above would be overkill.


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#18 2006-10-11 4:17 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

I use a 1gb stick Shuffle, and I like it a hell of a lot more than my video iPod, mainly because the battery life is mammoth.

I personally cannot stand the iPod interface, because it demands attention.  While this is good advertising, pulling an iPod out to stare at is not always wise for some of us.  And I don't even want to get into the dangers of scrolling while driving.  The shuffle doesn't have any of these issues - I just poke it and it plays music.  Thats the kind of functionality I'd expect from Apple on the whole.

Shuffles are notoriously skittish, though.  While durable against impacts and superficial damage cleans up easy, water kills them and usb-port errors can blow the firmware and make it unusable as an mp3 player (had to have Geniuses repair it twice).


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#19 2006-10-11 5:16 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

Shuffles won't hold my whole soon to be 3 GB music collection. I have also been just thinking of getting an iPod Video so I also have room for movies. By the way, don't get FF7 for your computer unless you don't have a PS1, PSOne, PS2, PSTwo, Or soon, the PS3 because if you don't have one of those you'll have to pay 2 to 3 times the price for both the console and game instead of just buying it for computer, also does anyone know where I can Order the FFVII: AC and FFVII soundtrack?


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#20 2006-10-12 11:15 am

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

The shuffle is far from worthless.  My wife has a shuffle, and while it can't hold a huge library, it still holds a lot of music.  Impact resistance, no moving parts, and huge battery life make it an absolute joy to use.  While it's true that you can't dig through your library visually with the Shuffle, you can fine tune it with precision in iTunes.  This is the perfect MP3 player for running, working out, motorcycle riding, etc...  I would never strap my iPod video on my dirt bike, but I wouldn't hesitate to do so with the shuffle.


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#21 2006-10-12 4:14 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

A shuffle is perfectly adequate as a second iPod. I have one for the gym, but I don't look at it as anything more than a workout accessory.


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#22 2006-10-12 4:18 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

Kendall wrote:

333imacman wrote:

ahem...


IT'S A FREAKIN' iPOD. NOT IPOD.

ahem...

that said, have fun with whatever you get.

ahem...


iPod, not iPOD


ahem....


hehe   tongue

But I was yelling. When you yell iPod, it's spelled iPOD. Gosh.

Ok fine, you're right.


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#23 2006-10-12 6:44 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

crazyfrengy wrote:

Shuffles won't hold my whole soon to be 3 GB music collection. I have also been just thinking of getting an iPod Video so I also have room for movies. By the way, don't get FF7 for your computer unless you don't have a PS1, PSOne, PS2, PSTwo, Or soon, the PS3 because if you don't have one of those you'll have to pay 2 to 3 times the price for both the console and game instead of just buying it for computer, also does anyone know where I can Order the FFVII: AC and FFVII soundtrack?

okay, so you have a music collection 2 GB larger than a shuffle, thus the shuffle is now a useless product?


and what's with the off topic final fantasy stuff?

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#24 2006-10-12 7:04 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

I have an original shuffle and a mini.  I'll probably get one of the new shuffles for working out.


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#25 2006-10-12 8:34 pm

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Re: Should I get an Ipod (Or Is The IPod shuffle useless?)

I'm also considering either the new shuffle or a refurb nano for bike riding. I've got a 4G 60GB that's more than suitable for the music I usually carry around, but don't need several weeks worth of music to bike around the road.


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