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#1 2006-10-27 2:42 pm

Kirk
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Need New Video Card

I need a new video card and I want your recommendations, please.

My video card in my G5 / Dual 2GHz tower purchased in Nov. 2004 has died.  I'm getting awful noise on screen that comes and goes.  Yes, I've trouble shot the problem and am sure its a bad card.

So I need a new video card.  I'm taking recommendations.  I don't do video compositing very often, maybe once every six months.  It needs to run WoW nicely.  Price is not much of a concern.

The stock 256 MB ATi video card is currently in the machine.  I've been looking at aftermarket ATi cards though I could be convinced to use nVidia.  I have two free PCI-X slots (64-bit, 133 MHz) side-by-side in addition to the AGP X8 (533 MHz, 1.5 VDC) with the current video card.

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#2 2006-10-27 2:59 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

PCI-X, being different than PCIe (PCI Express for Graphics or PEG) never went anywhere as a videocard standard, so you're pretty much stuck with AGP.

Too bad you likely need a card now or soon and can't wait for a potential Mac X1950 Pro AGP, such as Sapphire (ATi's main board partner) is bringing out for PC. Hmm... best stock Mac AGP card... opinions? My memory's a bit fuzzy right now, but it seems to boil down to that.

I'll get back to this a bit later after some checking.


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#3 2006-10-27 2:59 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

Just ignore the PCI-X slots for this. tongue I would recommend either the Radeon 9800 if you don't really need über power, or the Radeon X800 if you want quite a bit of power. I wouldn't recommend the NVidia 6800 unless you can find one cheaper than a Radeon X800, since it flows over into another slot and is slightly slower than the X800. (and is more expensive, though pricing may have changed)


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#4 2006-10-27 3:07 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

Heh, is it really that simple?  I go to ATi's site and buy their most expensive card?  The X800 does look mighty nice.

Har, the X800 supports PCI-X!  Neener neener wink

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#5 2006-10-27 3:08 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

Definitely the X800 over the 9800, having owned both. The X850 was/is OEM-only, IIRC?


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#6 2006-10-27 3:13 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

OK, so this card - Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition with AGP is $400 over at Zones.  I'll think on this for another day before I order it.  Thanks, Bat and akb825.

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#7 2006-10-27 3:19 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

That's the one. I had a gloat post all ready, but I'll scrub it now. smile


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#8 2006-10-27 3:31 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

Kirk wrote:

Har, the X800 supports PCI-X!  Neener neener wink

No, it doesn't. There are PCI-E version, but the X800 Mac Edition is an 8x AGP card for G5s.


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#9 2006-10-27 3:45 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

Heh, I see the price hasn't gone down since I bought one 1.5 years ago. tongue


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#10 2006-10-27 4:21 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

Yes, the X800 does support PCI-X, at least the PC version I'd linked to originally does. wink

Radeon X800 Technology Specifications
* 160 million transistors on 0.13 micron low-k fabrication process
* Up to sixteen extreme parallel pixel pipelines
* Six programmable vertex shader pipelines
* 256-bit quad-channel GDDR3 memory interface
* AGP 8X support or PCI Express ™ support

Yeah, the Mac version is AGP only.

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#11 2006-10-27 4:25 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

PCI Express (otherwise known as PCI-E) != PCI-X. They are completely different animals, without any compatibility what so ever.


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#12 2006-10-27 4:28 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

Oh
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#13 2006-10-27 4:46 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

The x800 XT is a nice card. Have that in my G5.


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#14 2006-10-27 4:48 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

DoctorB wrote:

The x800 XT is a nice card. Have that in my G5.

Ditto I have an the AGP version in my PC. I know they're clocked a lil different but close. Plus with the Mac ATI Tool you could clock it back to PC specs.


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#15 2006-10-27 5:56 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

Wow just saw this on Accelerate your Mac.

-ATI Radeon x800 256MB for PowerMac G5 NEW $279 after rebate, Open Box $249 after rebate (rebate good if purchased by 10/28/06)

This in an add from OWC! http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/Search … amp;sort=a

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#16 2006-10-27 6:38 pm

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#17 2006-10-27 7:20 pm

Kirk
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Re: Need New Video Card

oooooh, thanks guys!

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#18 2006-11-03 10:26 pm

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Re: Need New Video Card

The new video card works great!  I can crank all the WoW settings to max and its still smooth.
Yay

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#19 2006-11-04 8:20 am

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Re: Need New Video Card

We aims to please. up


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