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#1 2006-10-29 3:47 pm
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Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Keeping an eye on the rank 'n' file
A Virginia-based operation, the Army Web Risk Assessment Cell, monitors official and unofficial blogs and other Web sites for anything that may compromise security. The team scans for official documents, personal contact information and pictures of weapons or entrances to camps.
In some cases, that information can be detrimental, said Lt. Col. Stephen Warnock, team leader and battalion commander of a Manassas-based Virginia National Guard unit working on the operation.
In one incident, a blogger was describing his duties as a guard, providing pictures of his post and discussing how to exploit its vulnerabilities. Other soldiers posted photos of an Army weapons system that was damaged by enemy attack, and another showed personal information that could have endangered his family.
"We are a nation at war," Warnock said by e-mail. "The less the enemy knows, the better it is for our soldiers."
Actually I think this is quite interesting. Imagine if previous wars like Vietnam had had blogging and email, eh? Imagine if the guys on Iwo Jima had had access to this technology. Or the guys at Stalingrad or Pusan or wherever. Think about it, this smurf allows direct, unfiltered broadcasting of the impressions and experiences of guys in the field. What are the implications for the future?
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#2 2006-10-29 3:50 pm
Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Yes, they should. There should be standards for not punishing soldiers who simply post things critical of the war and the administration, but the very real possibility exists for soldiers to inadvertently post sensitive information, especially in the pictures they post.
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#3 2006-10-29 4:01 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
I'm surprised it's even allowed frankly.
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#4 2006-10-29 5:42 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Newsweek: email from a Marine captain
His job there was one of the toughest in Iraq: making raw Iraqi recruits ready and able to take over the fight against the militants. Secher found the task exasperating and often discouraging; in e-mails and letters home, he expressed doubt that the Iraqi military would ever be ready for a handover, and criticized the way the Bush administration had directed the war. "Without the U.S., this army will fail and get eaten alive by the insurgents," he told his father in an e-mail this past April. Chatting with a friend during a brief leave five months later, he spoke of suspicions that some of his trainees were loyal to Moqtada al-Sadr and would have no compunction about betraying their American instructors if the radical Shiite cleric told them to.
At other times Captain Secher's messages expressed fondness for his Iraqi trainees and respect for their courage.
Not the same as a blog, but an interesting read nonetheless.
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#5 2006-10-29 7:03 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
There is valid reason to control information coming out of a tactical area. Certainly plenty of precedent. Letters sent home from WWII went thru a censorship process where details such as location, unit movements and sundry things like shortages of supplies were blacked out.
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#6 2006-10-29 7:25 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Yes.
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#7 2006-10-29 7:31 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Well, on one hand I can see the legitimate security concern, on the other hand, things that are not security concerns are already being obscured from the public for PR reasons.
That said, I'm working under contact for homeland security and it's not like anyone has posted notice that my coworkers and myself are being monitored. We're explicitly told what we can't talk about. We know security protocol, and we even know how it might be compromised. Nevertheless, I can't even begin to count the times I be told not to talk about that stuff.
Have these guys been debriefed properly and frequently?
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#8 2006-10-29 8:04 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Yes. The behavior of all military members, on duty and off duty, is taken into account when writing their performance reports. Not only that, but military members are fully aware of the laws and regulations pertaining to all military members.
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#9 2006-10-30 4:09 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
There certainly is concern that compromising informations gets out - even with the best of intention, the soldiers couldn't be trained in recognizing everything that could be put to use. It's certainly easier for the military to just shut down all access.
However, it is good to get unvarnished reports from the front.
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#10 2006-10-30 6:18 pm
Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
The army needs to do whatever it can to prevent intentional and/or accidental information getting into the wrong hands.
Blogs and websites of soldiers are not private, they are public, so there aren't even any privacy issues going on here. If information gleaned from websites could result in a blown operation, then lives are at stake. Thus, the military should monitor these potential channels.
Private e-mail and phone calls, I don't know. If in the field, yes. If from the private home on private time, only if there is probable cause. But public publications such as a blog or website, yes - the military should monitor them. If a soldier doesn't want the military to see the info, they should not make it public.
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#11 2006-10-30 9:42 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Catch-22 wrote:
All the officer patients in the ward were forced to censor letters written by all the enlisted-men patients, who were kept in residence in wards of their own. It was a monotonous job, and Yossarian was disappointed to learn that the lives of enlisted men were only slightly more interesting than the lives of officers. After the first day he had no curiosity at all. To break the monotony he invented games. Death to all modifiers, he declared one day, and out of every letter that passed through his hands went every adverb and every adjective. The next day he made war on articles. He reached a much higher plane of creativity the following day when he blacked out everything in the letters but a, an and the. That erected more dynamic intralinear tensions, he felt, and in just about every case left a message far more universal. Soon he was proscribing parts of salutations and signatures and leaving the text untouched. One time he blacked out all but the salutation "Dear Mary" from a letter, and at the bottom he wrote, "I yearn for you tragically A. T. Tappman, Chaplain, U.S. Army." A. T. Tappman was the group chaplain's name.
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#12 2006-10-30 9:53 pm
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Once, on deployment, I sent my wife a letter where I blacked everything out but the salutation and then wrote that at the bottom.
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#13 2006-10-30 9:54 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Rozzlapeed wrote:
Catch-22 wrote:
All the officer patients in the ward were forced to censor letters written by all the enlisted-men patients, who were kept in residence in wards of their own. It was a monotonous job, and Yossarian was disappointed to learn that the lives of enlisted men were only slightly more interesting than the lives of officers. After the first day he had no curiosity at all. To break the monotony he invented games. Death to all modifiers, he declared one day, and out of every letter that passed through his hands went every adverb and every adjective. The next day he made war on articles. He reached a much higher plane of creativity the following day when he blacked out everything in the letters but a, an and the. That erected more dynamic intralinear tensions, he felt, and in just about every case left a message far more universal. Soon he was proscribing parts of salutations and signatures and leaving the text untouched. One time he blacked out all but the salutation "Dear Mary" from a letter, and at the bottom he wrote, "I yearn for you tragically A. T. Tappman, Chaplain, U.S. Army." A. T. Tappman was the group chaplain's name.
God, that book was inspired.
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#14 2006-10-30 10:00 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Tallgeese wrote:
Once, on deployment, I sent my wife a letter where I blacked everything out but the salutation and then wrote that at the bottom.
Oh my God. I would join the military, AND get a girlfriend, just to do that.
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#15 2006-10-31 9:09 am
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Get the girlfriend first. It's easier, since you are going to volunteer infantry so you can be deployed. Did you know, there are women who actually do get turned on by uniforms, and those who have been in harms way?
They can be pretty freaky too.
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#16 2006-10-31 9:34 am
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sturner wrote:
They can be pretty freaky too.
Oh, how I know. I don't want to go into the details, but I still haven't gotten over the irrational fear of three-legged stools and European power adaptors that I developed during my previous relationship.
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#17 2006-10-31 9:50 am
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Hmmmm, sounds very kinky!
Have you been a bad boy Rozzlapeed?
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#18 2006-10-31 10:11 am
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Rozzlapeed wrote:
Oh my God. I would join the military, AND get a girlfriend, just to do that.
Most people get girlfriends to do other things ...
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#19 2006-10-31 10:27 am
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
sturner wrote:
Hmmmm, sounds very kinky!
Have you been a bad boy Rozzlapeed?
Yes I have, and you would not believe how hard it is to get that kind of thing removed from your record.
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#20 2006-10-31 3:41 pm
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Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Yes... passively, and email. Especially considering how unsecure most email is [webmail].
It would be interesting if they could communicate through a secure DoD site, however.
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#21 2006-10-31 4:32 pm
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All webmail is blocked by the Navy
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#22 2006-10-31 9:26 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Tallgeese wrote:
All webmail is blocked by the Navy
Really! That's interesting.
Is regular email monitored more than snail mail?
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#23 2006-10-31 9:31 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Yeop.
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#24 2006-11-01 12:48 pm
Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Tallgeese wrote:
All webmail is blocked by the Navy
Really! That's interesting.
Is regular email monitored more than snail mail?
Every email that comes in has to pass through the Navy's server and is subject to being read. Hell, EVERYTHING you do on a computer hooked up to a military server is subject to monitoring. It's part of the agreement you have to sign to even get a login.
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#25 2006-11-01 2:59 pm
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Re: Should the Army monitor soldiers' blogs and web sites?
Yes
Of course they should monitor and censor certin information, They should also get rid of the Reporters and TV people assigned to units for the same thing
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