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#1 2006-11-10 2:39 pm

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Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Here we go again ...

n the most dramatic comments to date by a senior government member on the threat posed by the Iranian nuclear program, the former IDF brigadier-general described an untenable scenario of Israel "living under a dark cloud of fear from a leader committed to its destruction."

He said he was afraid that, under such a threat, "most Israelis would prefer not to live here; most Jews would prefer not to come here with their families; and Israelis who can live abroad will. People are not enthusiastic about being scorched."

Thus the danger, Sneh elaborated, was that Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would "be able to kill the Zionist dream without pushing a button. That's why we must prevent this regime from obtaining nuclear capability at all costs."

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said on Thursday night that Iran posed a serious threat that needed to be addressed with a cool head.

"There is no issue that I deal with more intensively than the Iranian problem," he told a Kadima meeting in Petah Tikva. But he cautioned against creating panic among the public.

"We have to handle the issue with coolheadedness and wisdom," he said. "Even the Russians don't want a nuclear Iran. We have to talk to everyone and remind them of the danger of a Muslim extremist nation using a nuclear weapon to harm another nation. The big countries have to lead and we have to push them."

First of all, the portrayal of Iran's threat is very creative. It's not that Iran will nuke Israel, it's that Isralis and Jews worldwide will be so scared they'll head for the hills and stay away from the Holy Land? How very odd.

And isn't the timing of this interesting? So soon after the midterms and all?

I still don't think an attack is likely, but one never knows ...


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#2 2006-11-10 2:45 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Damn, we really DID embolden the terrorists!


o wait.....


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Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#3 2006-11-10 4:13 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

"kill the Zionist dream?".  Good God.  Or maybe I should say Bad God.


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#4 2006-11-10 4:17 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

So, is this because Israel thinks our Executive branch will no longer be able to handle it for them due to Dems taking Congress (and Reps being seriously peeved at the President)?


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#5 2006-11-10 5:07 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

My concern for Israel's well being is at a very low point after the way they have been acting the last few years. Frankly I am tired of them inflaming everything to the nth degree and just assuming we will be there to back them up.
I am certainly not sympathetic to the nations that are lined up against Israel either but there is the cold blooded fact that Israel is the grain of sand around which a big fat pearl of smurf has built up. If they were out of the picture one hell of a lot of problems go away.
Just sayin'.


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#6 2006-11-10 5:42 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

lets get over it for once and for all.
Getting tired off this nonsense.

So lets assume they did...
What then? This will bring the whole world against Israel perhaps in some way...
Then those revelations doesn't sound that crazy.

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#7 2006-11-10 9:59 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

I don't think an attack is likely, but I don't blame the Israelis from being antzy. I can't imagine how our gov. would react if Canada announced that we should be wiped off the face of the Earth.


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#8 2006-11-10 10:45 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

If Iran would tone down the rhetoric a little, it might help.  But being dedicated to wiping out Israel and pursing nukes isn't a good combination.  Can't really blame the Israelis for being nervous.  Of course the option is on the table, how could it not be?  If the rest of the world fails to act (very likely, unless the new Sec-Gen will help the UN grow some balls), then Israel really doesn't have a choice but to do whatever is necessary to prevent a nuclear Iran.  But they are talking about remaining calm and working with other nations.  I don't think an attack is imminent.  The thread title embellishes just a little.

It's not Olmert making these comments - nor Peretz or Halutz.  He doesn't necessarily speak for all Israelis or even those in the Israeli gubment.


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#9 2006-11-11 3:08 am

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Bejesus?

Bemoses Shnicky... Bemoses.

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#10 2006-11-11 7:14 am

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

mo' ron wrote:

I don't think an attack is likely, but I don't blame the Israelis from being antzy. I can't imagine how our gov. would react if Canada announced that we should be wiped off the face of the Earth.

That would probably work better if the bigger guy was declaring the smaller one should be gone.
So Bush says Canada should be gone and then Shicky would do his best Tony Montana "say hello to my little friend" and toss a pissed off beaver across the border.


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#11 2006-11-11 10:11 am

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

You mean an actual beaver right?


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#12 2006-11-11 10:17 am

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Either kind can be deadly.


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#13 2006-11-11 10:53 am

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Bush then kills the beaver with a nuke. He goes to the residence and tells Laura, "Honey, I have to tell you what I did to this beaver today." Laura in a fit of rage smacks him over the head with a heavy bible yelling "I told you what would happen if you turned into Clinton".
Elsewhere Hank and Ribby are trying to get their B-Annual Sparrow (a prius with the flashlight battery/horsepower boost upgrade) to start so they can rescue our erstwhile young hero Shicky who at that moment is in the clutches of Darth Cheney outfitted in his automatic defrebulater suit. Between heart attacks Cheney rasps "Shicky, I am your father".


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#14 2006-11-11 11:01 am

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

You quite all right there, Kev? Haven't been sniffing herbicides again, have you?


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#15 2006-11-11 11:05 am

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Drinking breakfast isn't a good idea?


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#16 2006-11-11 11:07 am

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

I had coffee for breakfast.

....does that count?


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#17 2006-11-11 11:44 am

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Only if it's Irish coffee.


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#18 2006-11-11 12:49 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Farmerkev wrote:

Elsewhere Hank and Ribby are trying to get their B-Annual Sparrow (a prius with the flashlight battery/horsepower boost upgrade) to start so they can rescue our erstwhile young hero Shicky

As part of their new Clean Air Act, and to concurrently fund the Canadian military (and weapons manufacturers), our proactive new government will be sending Ribs and Co. some new solar-powered tanks for Afghanistan.  I'd ask to borrow one of those for Saving Private Shnicky.  As long as Cheney wasn't holding him in Seattle, we'd stand a chance.


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#19 2006-11-11 6:30 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Interesting how Israel talking about bombing Iran, a country that says it wants to wipe them out, gets a rather strong reaction here.

When Iran however talks about wiping Israel, it isn't suppose to be taken at face value.

Truly fascinating.


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#20 2006-11-11 6:54 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

Probably because with Iran, it's a largely empty threat.  With Israel, not so much.


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#21 2006-11-11 6:57 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

resedit wrote:

Interesting how Israel talking about bombing Iran, a country that says it wants to wipe them out, gets a rather strong reaction here.

When Iran however talks about wiping Israel, it isn't suppose to be taken at face value.

Truly fascinating.

See, one of these nations has a modern airforce and nuclear weapons. Another does not. Iran has been calling for the destruction of Israel ever since the revolution. Its pretty obvious they aren't going to actually do anything about it, they would have already. Israel however has carried out its threats numerous times.


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#22 2006-11-11 7:28 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

resedit wrote:

Interesting how Israel talking about bombing Iran, a country that says it wants to wipe them out, gets a rather strong reaction here.

When Iran however talks about wiping Israel, it isn't suppose to be taken at face value.

Truly fascinating.

One expects a totalitarian anti-Semitic theocracy like Iran to make violently absurd statements. Why should we expect anything else?

I do expect better from a supposedly pluralistic, peaceful, secular, democratic country to behave like something approaching a civilized way.

Unless, that is, you're suggesting the two countries are ethically equivalent? Because that would be fascinating. Truly fascinating.

By the way, the Israelis clearly don't take Iran terribly seriously -- the guy in the story I quoted made the Iranians sound like some sort of tourism issue.


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#23 2006-11-11 8:15 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

I think the Israelis take Iran seriously but not as an immediate threat.
If they did Iran would already have been attacked, face it, Israel doesn't horse around.


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#24 2006-11-11 8:47 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

So their threats are basically empty?

I guess they've been studying hard at the George W Bush School for Impotent Sabre-Rattling.


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#25 2006-11-11 10:05 pm

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Re: Israel once more talking about bombing the bejesus out of Iran

ShnickyShnack wrote:

So their threats are basically empty?

I guess they've been studying hard at the George W Bush School for Impotent Sabre-Rattling.

Israel? No, not empty. They know they have time yet. My guess, and only my guess, they will wait as long as they can hoping other countries/events intervene. When push comes to shove though when have they ever not pulled the trigger?
Iran empty threat?
Probably, at least for now. Hard to guess about tomorrow.


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