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NAG wrote:

Meh, all the gear is completely outclassed in tbc anyway.

That's not the point.

Would you rather the gear you got in raid be useless in pvp?

It wasn't an attempt at anything.

I see now that you just want to feel OUTRAGE. MC will do that to most people.

Uh, since I'm about to step into PvP for the first time, please tell me what n00bish habits I should avoid.

iBubba wrote:

NAG wrote:

Meh, all the gear is completely outclassed in tbc anyway.

That's not the point.

Yes actually it *IS* the point.

This patch is TBC preparation, plain and simple. The level 70 HWL/GM sets and weapons are *not* epic, although there are some epic items still available at 70 through the honor system (Boots, Bracers, Cloak, Belt, and maybe some rings, necks and trinkets, iirc), you can no longer get a full epic set + weapons at 70 just through world/bg PvP. The new PvP focus at 70 is going to be the arena, where you *can* finish out an epic set and obtain epic weapons.

The patch is just a backport of the TBC beta minus the new content + level cap, to implement the new mechanics in advance, which are NOT well balanced for level 60 and the old itemization. It sucks, but thats just how its going to be for the next month, and then the cap will be raised and these changes which *are* tested and balanced with level 70 in mind will make a lot more sense. In a month being level 60 will mean nothing.. no one cares about level 50 balance now, and no one will care about level 60 balance in a month.

Frankly I wouldn't be all that excited about Perd's dropping with the expansion coming out in a month even if they hadn't pushed the honor system changes to live - level 60 Outland blues outclass MC Epics anyway - the first Hellfire Citadel run I did on the beta server I replaced my OEB with a blue polearm, so raiding MC for loot is really a waste of time at this point. Keep raiding for the next month if you find it enjoyable or if you want to help your guild get better as a group - the loot is a non-issue now.

Last edited by Odin (2006-12-12 7:14 pm)

I don't think so, they haven't made significant changes to old loot yet on beta, so I doubt they are planning to at all.

Its really not a big deal, there are green quest rewards in outland that compare favorably even to MC gear.. lol.

No one is going to be using current gear, even Naxx gear, in a few months.

Yep, definitely some nice crafted gear past the current cap, especially for the blacksmithing specializations.

Lets be honest - for the first couple of weeks you're going to be limited by spawn rate, not kill rate. The Outland zones are going to be so overcrowded it will be ridiculous.

1 weekend and I have my epic PVP shoulders. Or I can go for the helm, but Id rather hold out and see if I can get Bloodfang Hood, it's comparable

T1 isn't that hard to get - .5 is far more difficult.

.5 requires finding all of the level 0 gear, then going through an incredibly convoluted quest chain ending in a incredibly difficult 10 man fight.  Easily more difficult then 30 mannin' MC.