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I suppose, but then again without a guild with 30 reliable 60s getting all of your tier one could take a very, very long time.  Oh well, it's all useless now!  Naxx at 70 FTW.  I can finally see all of those dungeons I missed out on before.

Oh I'd like to disagree.  My guild was in an alliance and I promise you, taint a raid with as little as 15 idiots and you'll never get past Baron.  If I had a nickle for every time I've seen somebody be made the bomb, not realize, and wipe the raid, I'd probably have close to 70 cents.

We're not in that alliance anymore.

Shibbysan wrote:

Oh I'd like to disagree.  My guild was in an alliance and I promise you, taint a raid with as little as 15 idiots and you'll never get past Baron.  If I had a nickle for every time I've seen somebody be made the bomb, not realize, and wipe the raid, I'd probably have close to 70 cents.

We're not in that alliance anymore.

Oh, if you have a few good people (and probably of the right class) in tier 2 plus you can probably drag a raid of about 20 or so idiots through mc.

No.  When I raided, I ate the rest of my guild for breakfeast heal wise (2nd highest total healing, 2nd lowest over heal (less then 5%))... and I have some pretty smurfy gear (4/8 T2, 3/8 T1 and a smattering of other blues/epics) when compared to their 8/8 T2 and parts of T3.

I like to rank healers as how well they can keep people from dying rather than stats. Those heal meters are freaking stupid. They lobotomize people preventing them from learning the feel of it. Healing is way more of an art than a science.

Frankly, I think you can tell more about a healer by how they act out of combat than in.

Well said.  I'm finding myself with very little patience to get even 40k honor.  I'll have to settle for the sword.

I'm starting to loose interest in the game anyhow, as it seems to appeal to hard core gamers for end game material, where the rest of the levels are hodge podge of mismatched gear that desperately needs to be normalized, and serious gaps for particular classes during parts of their leveling career.

Basically the game is dull in mid levels unless high population server with others content to hang out at mid levels.  But then when you get to end-game, you'll have to be lifeless to raid and get loots.  In the end, 20 to 40 pounds later, messed up life, lost professional and personal opportunities, you'll feel a sense of accomplishment with some purples one can flaunt in front of others to feel special, a sense of pride and accomplishment, then the next expansion comes out...