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#1 2007-01-11 1:31 pm

Denali
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House warming tips

With the cold expected to hit our home state of CO tonight and reach sub zero temps, I am looking for a way to give my furnace (and pocket book) a breather. 
We just moved into this house last May, so there isn't a lot of money left over to fix the one thing that sucks heat more than anything and that is our windows.  I bought thermal backed drapes to hang over the windows which does help keep out that cold draft, the insulation in the attic is thick, and we've put weather stripping around the air leaks in the door, but the furnace still appears to be working double time today and ti's only 18 F. 

Any other cheap tips, or tricks to keep a house warm without paying higher bills?  Our bill for Dec was very high.  We saved up extra money for just that reason, but if it keeps up, we won't last through the snowiest months which lay ahead of us.

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#2 2007-01-11 1:37 pm

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Re: House warming tips

Sex.


You have an absolutely breath-taking... heiney. I mean, that thing's good. I wanna be friends with it.

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#3 2007-01-11 1:38 pm

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Re: House warming tips

Plastic over the windows, held down with molding screwed into the window frame.

You can't see outside very well, it's ugly, but it's cheap and effective.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#4 2007-01-11 1:43 pm

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Re: House warming tips

For about $100 you can have someone come in and tell you exactly where you're leaking air.  In my house, they identified some of the doors and windows, as expected.  One thing that surprised me was how much heat was being lost through the uninsulated basement walls.  The guy said that about 40% of my heating loss was though the basement walls, and that half of that was just through the foot of wall that rises above the ground.  So if I only insulate the 12 inches of concrete that is above ground, I will reduce my energy losses by about 20%.

I should really get on that.

What's your basement like, denali?


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#5 2007-01-11 1:48 pm

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Re: House warming tips

Electric or down blankets for the bed, and go to Costco and get one of those giant dish like heaters. They're about $50 iirc.

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#6 2007-01-11 1:57 pm

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Re: House warming tips

justine wrote:

Electric or down blankets for the bed, and go to Costco and get one of those giant dish like heaters. They're about $50 iirc.

$50 + extra money for the electricity to run the heaters.

Or, spend $100 on insulation and save $50 on heating.  Then keep saving money on heating AND cooling for as long as you live in the house.

Hmmmm....


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#7 2007-01-11 2:01 pm

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Re: House warming tips

jeff-o wrote:

justine wrote:

Electric or down blankets for the bed, and go to Costco and get one of those giant dish like heaters. They're about $50 iirc.

$50 + extra money for the electricity to run the heaters.

Or, spend $100 on insulation and save $50 on heating.  Then keep saving money on heating AND cooling for as long as you live in the house.

Hmmmm....

" We just moved into this house last May, so there isn't a lot of money left over to fix the one thing that sucks heat more than anything and that is our windows."

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#8 2007-01-11 2:44 pm

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Re: House warming tips

Windows are a lot more expensive than a few chunks of styrofoam insulation...


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#9 2007-01-11 2:53 pm

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Re: House warming tips

user wrote:

Plastic over the windows, held down with molding screwed into the window frame.

You can't see outside very well, it's ugly, but it's cheap and effective.

Agreed.
Cheap, fast, and easy.
They make kits that have peel 'n stick adhesive on the plastic. A staple gun will work, too. And you can put the plastic on the inside, so you dont need to be out in the cold.
I'd get to WalMart ASAP, before they are sold out.

Kerosene heaters have been popular around here for a long time. Emergency and supplemental heat. They are cheap, and they really put out the heat. The trick is finding good kerosene, not diesel or home heating oil being sold as kerosene. Dealers will tell you there is no difference, and the oil does burn ok in the heater, but it has a bit of an odor and it gums up the wick more than real kerosene will. Sometimes you can find K-1 kerosene at the store where you bought the heater. BTW, if you go this route, do not cover a window in the room with the heater. You will need to open it just a crack for ventilation.
I got rid of mine when I bought gas logs for the fireplace.


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#10 2007-01-11 3:03 pm

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Re: House warming tips

jeff-o wrote:

For about $100 you can have someone come in and tell you exactly where you're leaking air.

That reminds me of the episode in "All In The Family" where a heating consultant hoodwinks Archie Bunker by holding a photographic light meter up to the window and saying "You're really losing a lot of heat through here - look at that needle jump!"


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#11 2007-01-11 3:11 pm

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Re: House warming tips

Don't use kerosene or other fuel heater inside your home.  The risk of carbon monoxide poisoning is too great.  I'll third or fourth the plastic over the windows recommendation.  You might also buy a couple cannisters of urethane foam and go looking for cracks in need of foaming.  How's the weather striping around doorways?  Replacing those with tigher fitting edging could potentially save a lot of cash for modest effort.

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#12 2007-01-11 3:34 pm

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Re: House warming tips

What others have said, and also, make sure to clean and inspect your furnace regularly.  If it's dirty, it will have to work a lot harder.  Your heating company (oil, gas) may provide this service for low or no cost.

Other ideas:

Curtains are great!  But make sure to open them and let the sun in when it's out.

Close your fireplace damper if you have one.

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#13 2007-01-11 3:38 pm

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Re: House warming tips

Kirk wrote:

Don't use kerosene or other fuel heater inside your home.  The risk of carbon monoxide poisoning is too great.  I'll third or fourth the plastic over the windows recommendation.  You might also buy a couple cannisters of urethane foam and go looking for cracks in need of foaming.  How's the weather striping around doorways?  Replacing those with tigher fitting edging could potentially save a lot of cash for modest effort.

DukeofNuke wrote:

BTW, if you go this route, do not cover a window in the room with the heater. You will need to open it just a crack for ventilation.

A few years ago, a jobber put gasoline in the kerosene tank at a local dealer. Three houses burned down before they figured it out.


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#14 2007-01-11 3:45 pm

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Re: House warming tips

Do you have electric heat? Get on the power co.s budget plan. you pay the same every month, so months use use little make up for months you use more.


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#15 2007-01-11 3:57 pm

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Re: House warming tips

I've been thinking about getting a pellet stove installed in my fireplace.  They are about $3,000.00 but a ton of pellets is only around $200.00.

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#16 2007-01-11 6:54 pm

Denali
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Re: House warming tips

Thanks for the great tips! :up.  I will comment on a few,
Jeff-o:  My basement is all below ground and quite warm.  I turned the heat down this afternoon while I was down there cleaning.  I knew it would take me several hours and it did.  Even with the heat down to 60, the basement was probably close to 70.  There was a huge temp difference when I came upstairs, so that is not a problem at least.

Plastic over the windows is a good idea and one I have done in the past.  However, at my apartment I lived behind plastic windows from Oct. through April.  I sort of believe that is where the mold problem came from, or at least part of it.  (lots of things could have caused it really)  I am afraid that if I put up plastic on every window, I may end up with mold again.  Is there a way to prevent that?
I did, notice in the apartment that the walls would sweat obviously this is what caused the mold growth.  Trouble is I don't know if it was from the plastic over the windows, or just the fact that there was no insulation in the walls at all.

I will keep the home audit in mind.  We get lots of tax money back this year because of the first time home buyer thing.  So an audit can be done, and we can save up to make changes ourselves and hopefully by next winter, have a warm house. 

We've also had the furnace cleaned and checked as well as all the ducts cleaned before we moved in.

Thanks guys

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#17 2007-01-11 9:43 pm

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Re: House warming tips

DukeofNuke wrote:

Get on the power co.s budget plan. you pay the same every month, so months use use little make up for months you use more.

I have to agree with this one o help with the bills. our bill would go from 50 in the summer to almost 200 in the middle of winter eek
We got on the budget plan and basically too the extra cost from the winter months and paid them during the summer months . also made it easier to budget knowing what the bill would be in advance


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#18 2007-01-11 10:39 pm

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Re: House warming tips

Kirk wrote:

Don't use kerosene or other fuel heater inside your home.  The risk of carbon monoxide poisoning is too great.

I agree that kerosene is not the best way to heat a home in terms of efficiency and health/safety.  However, it is fairly cheap...and the only option I have over here in Japan.

How common is it in the States?  I had only heard of heating with kerosene when I moved to Japan.  Before that all I knew was wood, fuel oil, and LP gas.


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#19 2007-01-11 10:42 pm

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Re: House warming tips

user wrote:

That reminds me of the episode in "All In The Family" where a heating consultant hoodwinks Archie Bunker by holding a photographic light meter up to the window and saying "You're really losing a lot of heat through here - look at that needle jump!"

I remember that one!

Another suggestion here -- keep the doors to your basement open, so as to let the air circulate to the rest of the house.


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#20 2007-01-11 11:52 pm

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Re: House warming tips

I thought a friend just bought a new place and you were looking for a good gift.

What to do in cold weather?

I keep my bathroom doors closed and block off the heater vents in them.
Sure, it means I'm cold while taking a dump, but it also means I'm not heating rooms I seldom visit. When taking a shower, the water is warm, and the steam heats up the air in the bathroom anyway.

One thing you might consider for next winter - finance better windows. They will pay for themselves in energy savings. You may be able to do it through your house mortgage company as it adds value to your home.

Check the weather stripping on your doors. Repkace it if it is bad.

And believe it or not - they make insulation that you can put between your outlet/switch cover plates and the outlet/switch - reducing heat lost through them.


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#21 2007-01-11 11:56 pm

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Re: House warming tips

mac-compliant wrote:

Kirk wrote:

Don't use kerosene or other fuel heater inside your home.  The risk of carbon monoxide poisoning is too great.

I agree that kerosene is not the best way to heat a home in terms of efficiency and health/safety.  However, it is fairly cheap...and the only option I have over here in Japan.

How common is it in the States?  I had only heard of heating with kerosene when I moved to Japan.  Before that all I knew was wood, fuel oil, and LP gas.

Kerosene is cleaner than a coal stove, but it is more exppensive and harder to store.


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#22 2007-01-12 12:04 am

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Re: House warming tips

justine wrote:

Electric or down blankets for the bed.

and for the living room.   Keep a bedsheet or 2 between the electric blanket and yourself to reduce chance of getting any stray electricity.

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#23 2007-01-12 12:08 am

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Re: House warming tips

Just to throw in something...

I've heard that if you take a large black pot, fill it with water, put a lid on it, and stick in in direct sunlight in your home, it'll absorb the heat from the sun and release it to the interior of the home.

Last winter I lived in a house that leaked like a sieve, so we tried to seal up the doors as best we could, but still ended up buying an electric oil filled space heater.  It worked well, but for only one room in the house. It was a lot cheaper than paying the gas bill and luckily it was on wheels so I pulled it around the house with me.


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#24 2007-01-12 12:11 am

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Re: House warming tips

I think it's good to have a backup heat source that doesn't depend on electricty.


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#25 2007-01-12 8:11 am

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Re: House warming tips

DukeofNuke wrote:

I think it's good to have a backup heat source that doesn't depend on electricty.

I have a kerosene heater for that - it's still in the box, never opened.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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