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#26 2007-01-16 3:37 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

Yeah, if MS did something like that with WMP, people would be hoppin' mad.  I just use VLC instead.


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#27 2007-01-16 4:18 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

kb5zhh wrote:

NAG wrote:

Why would anyone complain about getting a new feature? Who made this law?

The sarbanes-oxley law was authored by sarbanes and oxley.

I suspect what the law wants to avoid is a company offering a significant upgrade to just a few customers.  For example, spending a significant sum to improve functionality of powerbooks on G5 jets would obviously be favoring certain customers in a way not easily trackable by shareholders.

Is this something new?
If obviously can't apply to software, or else we'd be buying ever software update. Is there something special, since this is a firmware upgrade?
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#28 2007-01-16 5:40 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

Who made this law, was it supposed to be used this way and does it apply in other countries?


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#29 2007-01-16 5:45 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

Well then, according to this wouldn't M$ have to charge in order to unlock its wifi in the Zune so it can do more than what it was advertised to do?

This law is confusing and really, quite dumb.


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#30 2007-01-16 6:37 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

I think this law only applies to technologies not yet finalized. The "n" network has not been approved by the FCC yet and I think that is where this law comes into play.


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#31 2007-01-16 8:54 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

elpato84 wrote:

What's the deal with 'n anyway? Does it make the connection faster/stronger, or do I need to have the specific card in my computer AND the router? Is it even worth it?

As already mentioned it's faster, the reception range is much greater, and yes you do need to have matching hardware at both ends.


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#32 2007-01-16 9:31 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

If it made my connection better with a normal router (not n) then I wouldn't mine the $5.
Apple should have just said they were n from the start and avoid the whole thing. Sometimes the secrecy is just stupid.


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#33 2007-01-16 10:41 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

But why charge 5 bucks...

Apple loves to ridicule M$ for their 39 versions of vista.... now they are doing something similar, just on a smaller scale.


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#34 2007-01-17 11:26 am

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

Fried Chicken wrote:

But why charge 5 bucks...

Apple loves to ridicule M$ for their 39 versions of vista.... now they are doing something similar, just on a smaller scale.

Because of the law maybe?


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#35 2007-01-17 12:06 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

The law provides other options all of which are somewhat more hassle for Apple to implement without potentially raising other accounting issues but are still perfectly valid. Still I wonder why they chose $4.99 as the price point. Theoretically it could be handled at any price point.

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#36 2007-01-17 2:26 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

wellfleation wrote:

Fried Chicken wrote:

But why charge 5 bucks...

Apple loves to ridicule M$ for their 39 versions of vista.... now they are doing something similar, just on a smaller scale.

Because of the law maybe?

Ok then make it like $.99 cents or something... $5? They are trying to make some money me thinks.


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#37 2007-01-17 2:58 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

Yeah, I don't see it costing them $5 to send it out. Oh well.


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#38 2007-01-17 7:33 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

what part of the act? it's a long act and none of the section titles seem to suggest something like that in the contents.


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#39 2007-01-17 7:36 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

HackerJax wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

Fried Chicken wrote:

But why charge 5 bucks...

Apple loves to ridicule M$ for their 39 versions of vista.... now they are doing something similar, just on a smaller scale.

Because of the law maybe?

Ok then make it like $.99 cents or something... $5? They are trying to make some money me thinks.

You all are kidding, right? An extra five bucks on top of the huge premium their wireless devices already cost is a plot to make more money?


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#40 2007-01-17 7:45 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

the money is to bribe anyone investigating the "options scandal", isn't it TALLGEESE?
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#41 2007-01-17 7:46 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

Tallgeese wrote:

HackerJax wrote:

wellfleation wrote:


Because of the law maybe?

Ok then make it like $.99 cents or something... $5? They are trying to make some money me thinks.

You all are kidding, right? An extra five bucks on top of the huge premium their wireless devices already cost is a plot to make more money?

lol good point.


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#42 2007-01-17 8:06 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

titok16 wrote:

the money is to bribe anyone investigating the "options scandal", isn't it TALLGEESE?
tito

I cannot comment on this.


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#43 2007-01-18 5:52 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

Well, if they are actually shipping a CD out 99¢ might not cover that.


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#44 2007-01-18 5:59 pm

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#45 2007-01-18 6:43 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

You obviously haven't shipped anything lately. The last time I shipped media it cost me at least $2.50 including packaging but excluding disk creation. Bear in mind that was a few years back and I know a few tricks to reduce shipping costs to a bare minimum.

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#46 2007-01-19 9:35 am

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

ScifiterX wrote:

You obviously haven't shipped anything lately. The last time I shipped media it cost me at least $2.50 including packaging but excluding disk creation. Bear in mind that was a few years back and I know a few tricks to reduce shipping costs to a bare minimum.

Yeah, but you know apple - they love their well designed packaging solutions.


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#47 2007-01-19 11:03 am

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

That's sort of my point.

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#48 2007-01-19 11:09 am

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

Apple confirms, lowers 802.11n Enabler fee

Apple tonight confirmed a circulating story that it would charge owners of recent Airport-equipped Macs for a patch that will enable 802.11n wireless in Mac OS X. The company, however, appears to have changed its mind about the privately documented $4.99 fee following customer reaction and will now plans to charge just $1.99

Apple spokeswoman Lynn Fox additionally confirmed that the Sarbannes-Oxley Act was largely to blame for the fee. The law's provisions require that companies charge for significant features added to already-purchased products, Fox said.

Speculation about retroactive updates to the faster Wi-Fi standard arose when dissections of the MacBook Pro and other computers released since August revealed hidden 802.11n support in their chipsets.

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#49 2007-01-19 12:35 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

Like I said, 2 bucks smile


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#50 2007-01-19 12:41 pm

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Re: Apple to Charge $5 for .N Wireless Unlock

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