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#26 2007-01-28 7:59 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
Anything wrong with this?.
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#27 2007-01-29 2:33 am
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Re: iSight Alternative
As has been said, I would just buy a cheap and used DV camera with a firewire port on it.
I use my Sony handycam all the time for iChat. Works better than the iSight. No contest.
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#28 2007-01-29 10:55 am
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Re: iSight Alternative
kman wrote:
Anything wrong with this?.
If you are going to go with a DV camera I would recommend one that has the option of attaching an external light source. The quality of video increases dramatically when you have a light source pointed at the subject (in this case you), especially since many people have their computers located in areas without great lighting.
Like some of the other here, before buying my MacBook Pro, I used to use my Sony Digital 8 camcorder with the external light for iChat. It worked great aside from the fact that it usually sat on the side of my screen so I had to turn to face the person and turn back to see them. The video quality was incredible though.
The other problem you are going to have is not knowing if the camera will work over Firewire, unless you know someone that has used it. Unfortunately, it seems that not all DV cams work, even those with Firewire. As I mentioned earlier, my sister has a DV cam from Panasonic with Firewire and USB and it will not work with iChat via Firewire.
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#29 2007-01-29 12:18 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
kman wrote:
Anything wrong with this?.
I looked at about 4 of those canon ZR cameras, and they are all USB. I don't know if this will work with iChat.
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#30 2007-01-29 12:56 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
knobtwirler wrote:
kman wrote:
Anything wrong with this?.
I looked at about 4 of those canon ZR cameras, and they are all USB. I don't know if this will work with iChat.
I haven't looked at all ZRs but the one he pointed to had Firewire: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-49KTQROgfs … 0zr500#Tab
Frank
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#31 2007-01-29 1:45 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
Found this alternative. Looks darn good and inexpensive. I'd love to hear from someone that has tried this because I am thinking about picking one up.
http://www.ecamm.com/mac/imagewebcam/faq.html
Frank
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#32 2007-01-29 2:12 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
frankly wrote:
knobtwirler wrote:
kman wrote:
Anything wrong with this?.
I looked at about 4 of those canon ZR cameras, and they are all USB. I don't know if this will work with iChat.
I haven't looked at all ZRs but the one he pointed to had Firewire: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-49KTQROgfs … 0zr500#Tab
Frank
Cool! Apple website has it for $219. Much better deal than an iSight! It didn't list connectivity so I assumed it was not worth noting. Turns out it's just old!
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#33 2007-01-29 9:31 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
You would think that since apple is still selling iSight accessories, that they'll be bringing back the actual webcam.
Alright, now, who wants to be transistorized?
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#34 2007-01-30 8:35 am
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Re: iSight Alternative
CrashingtehWarehouse wrote:
You would think that since apple is still selling iSight accessories, that they'll be bringing back the actual webcam.
That's what weirded me out about the removal of it, wondering if it was just bad timing, leaving a gap in there that will be filled soon. Did they really deplete all of their iSight stock?
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#35 2007-01-30 9:21 am
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Re: iSight Alternative
yes they deleted their stock.
I actually lucked out and ordered on roughly three weeks before they dropped itfrom the store.
delivery was one month post ordering... so they had to make it.
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#36 2007-01-30 12:43 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
I don't care about DV Cams with FW hook-ups and neither would my dad. I specifically am looking at Webcam alternatives that are similarly priced to the iSight and just as good. Webcams are simple, I want to keep it that way.
Why is iSight's FW so much a premium over USB cams?
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#37 2007-01-30 12:45 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
personified8 wrote:
I don't care about DV Cams with FW hook-ups and neither would my dad. I specifically am looking at Webcam alternatives that are similarly priced to the iSight and just as good. Webcams are simple, I want to keep it that way.
Why is iSight's FW so much a premium over USB cams?
Perhaps you missed it earlier when I said:
Found this alternative. Looks darn good and inexpensive. I'd love to hear from someone that has tried this because I am thinking about picking one up.
http://www.ecamm.com/mac/imagewebcam/faq.html
Frank
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#38 2007-01-30 12:51 pm
#39 2007-01-30 12:52 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
personified8 wrote:
i did miss that one. thanks.
No problem. Let me know if you pick it up. I'd be very interested in the quality.
Frank
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#40 2007-01-30 12:52 pm
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hmm i just rememberd. My dad's laptop is the original titanium 400mhz from 2001. I don't know if it's USB is 2.0 or not. He does have a G5 iMac at work though, and that's where his high-speed interweb is. Perhaps they'll just have to conference from there.
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#41 2007-01-30 12:56 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
personified8 wrote:
hmm i just rememberd. My dad's laptop is the original titanium 400mhz from 2001. I don't know if it's USB is 2.0 or not. He does have a G5 iMac at work though, and that's where his high-speed interweb is. Perhaps they'll just have to conference from there.
If it comes down to it he should be able to add USB 2.0 via the card slot.
Frank
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#42 2007-02-01 11:53 am
- knobtwirler
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Re: iSight Alternative
frankly wrote:
personified8 wrote:
I don't care about DV Cams with FW hook-ups and neither would my dad. I specifically am looking at Webcam alternatives that are similarly priced to the iSight and just as good. Webcams are simple, I want to keep it that way.
Why is iSight's FW so much a premium over USB cams?Perhaps you missed it earlier when I said:
Found this alternative. Looks darn good and inexpensive. I'd love to hear from someone that has tried this because I am thinking about picking one up.
http://www.ecamm.com/mac/imagewebcam/faq.html
Frank
Since it doesn't have a mic and looks like a Fisher Price toy, I'd like to see a video capture of how it works. I'd be more interested in getting a patch that allows you to use ANY USB camera with iChat.
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#43 2007-02-01 12:12 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
knobtwirler wrote:
frankly wrote:
personified8 wrote:
I don't care about DV Cams with FW hook-ups and neither would my dad. I specifically am looking at Webcam alternatives that are similarly priced to the iSight and just as good. Webcams are simple, I want to keep it that way.
Why is iSight's FW so much a premium over USB cams?Perhaps you missed it earlier when I said:
Found this alternative. Looks darn good and inexpensive. I'd love to hear from someone that has tried this because I am thinking about picking one up.
http://www.ecamm.com/mac/imagewebcam/faq.html
FrankSince it doesn't have a mic and looks like a Fisher Price toy, I'd like to see a video capture of how it works. I'd be more interested in getting a patch that allows you to use ANY USB camera with iChat.
as posted earlier on page one of this thread...
http://www.ecamm.com/mac/ichatusbcam/
not all, but dam near all USBcams
" ...But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, "Stay the course." Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America, not the damned Titanic. I'll give you a sound bite: Throw the bums out!
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#44 2007-02-01 12:20 pm
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Re: iSight Alternative
here's another vote for iChatUSBCam from ecamm
"We are using it with some of our students who need a little help with their English, and have found they enjoy learning when they think it is just a game."
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