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#1 2007-02-26 11:32 am

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Direct TV vs Dish Network.

Which satellite TV service would you choose?

I'm considering going with satellite, 'cause the cable service around here really sucks.
But I can't seem to make up my mind. confused
And the "Packages" are more confusing than cell phone agreements.
I want HD, but only if real channels are on it. I mean, Discovery and National Geographic are really cool in HD, but it's just eye candy unless you can get regular content like, you know, like Lost and BSG and such.

Thanks for your opinions.


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#2 2007-02-26 11:47 am

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

I have dishnetwork and a buddy of mine has DTV.  As far as the receiver is concerned the Dish Tivo receivers were awful.  He has the Tivo one and my Dish 622 is much much better than that one.  I know they DTV now has new receivers so I can't comment about that one but the 622 is a good receiver.

As far as channels go I think Dish has more channels the DTV due to the purchase of Voom, however, those channels are crap.  As far as HD goes all I watch about 10 channels.  Supposedly DTV is going to add a ton of HD but at this point in time I think the content is very weak for both.

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#3 2007-02-26 11:48 am

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

And the "Packages" are more confusing than cell phone agreements.

The store I work at also sells satellite. FWIW, I don't touch the display with a 10 feet pole. It's too confusing, even for me.


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#4 2007-02-26 2:03 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

Part of the reason I don't plan on going HD any time soon. They're just too into making the whole thing a shell game. I'm not going to waste my time and get screwed by them anyway.


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#5 2007-02-26 2:31 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

Over The Air:
HD content is very good in the major cities.  I am in Dallas Texas and have 14 digital channels of which ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, Fox have lots of HD available during Prime Time hours, in fact almost 100% HD during Prime Time.  Football is very good in HD.  I use an antenna on the roof so I pay nothing for the HD and other digital feeds.  Check out antennaweb.org for what channels are available in your area.

Satellite:
On Dish Network there is ShowTime HD, HBO HD, HDnet, HDnet Movies, ESPN HD, Discovery Channel HD, TNT HD and the Voom channels (20 or so).  Depending on your interests it is wonderful or mediocre.  I have enjoyed The Gallery channel (art), and an HD music concert channel (Dave Matthews Band was awesome in HD with 5.1 Dolby Digital surround sound, same for John Mayhal Blues Breakers).

Satellite bandwidth is limited so the quality of each channel can vary from time to time.  They allocate the best picture to the channels that make them the most money.

And one more thought:
Satellite and Cable TV continues to be about supplying the most channels, not the highest quality picture, sound or programming.  If they can squeeze another channel in and sign up more subscribers they will do it.  If people drop the service and make it known to the providers that the reason is POOR PICTURE and SOUND QUALITY there might be some chance of changing things.


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#6 2007-02-26 2:57 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

No need to check antennaweb. I live in Hazard, halfway between Hooterville and Petticoat Junction, just past Bugtussell. Ain't no over-the-air TV in these here hills, boy! It's cable or sat-e-lite, one or t'other.


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#7 2007-02-26 3:52 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

lol

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#8 2007-02-26 3:54 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

Ok Dunkin' my take is that FIOS from Verizon may provide a solution to the bandwidth problem. They offer a competive package and Fiber Optic is soooo much nicer. I already have my internet connection through FIOS and I like it a lot.


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#9 2007-02-26 4:03 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

DirecTV has the nicer hardware IMO

As far as channel lineups and pricing goes they're pretty much the same

I can't speak to the effect of HD programming as I have no HD-capable equipment now, just standard stuff

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#10 2007-02-26 4:06 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

I have been a customer of both over the years, and DirecTV has my business long term.  Dish Network took my many years of business for granted and became very unhelpful and snotty.  DirecTV has been a joy.  I have a Tivo receiver with real Tivo service and the option to record off 2 channels while I view previously recorded material.  It is fantastic.  DirecTV is also the only source for NFL Sunday Ticket, a must for any football fan.  Unlike Dish, they also reward long time subscribers.  They called me one day and said they were giving me 6 months of Showtime for free, simply because I had been a good subscriber.

All other things being equal, I will take the company with the better customer service and the real Tivo.  That would be DirecTV.


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#11 2007-02-26 4:22 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

I need to do some looking into this more. I was talking to a sales guy about one of the satilite services and he kept bringing up how great they were for sports. That was pretty much all he seemed to want to talk about.
I told him I did not watch sports at all and the guy was literally struck dumb and after sputtering some said he would have to look into that and call me back. Apparently he had never talked to someone who was not a spectator of sports.
Made me wonder if I should even bother looking into satilite further.


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#12 2007-02-26 4:23 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

Dish dumped CourtTV so they are completely useless at this point wink


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#13 2007-02-26 4:47 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

I just purchased a 40" Samsung 1080p LCD screen, so I've been thinking about this stuff a lot myself.  My parents have had DirecTV since DirecTV has existed, and they've never had any complaints.  The amount of HD content isn't so great, but I think that no matter what provider you choose, it's only going to get better.  One thing I didn't know about DirecTV is that if you get good over-the-air HD channels in your area, you can plug an OTA antenna right into the receiver, and your OTA channels show up in your satellite guide just like any other channel.  And they sell a nifty OTA antenna that attaches to your dish, so you can get good OTA reception without rabbit ears or another ugly antenna.

As far as packages, I didn't find DirecTV's that confusing.  You start with the base SD package (about $50 I think), then you can add any or all of the following for about $10 per package:
-HD package
-Another big batch of SD channels
-HBO (several channels including HD)
-Showtime (several channels including HD)
-Cinemax (several channels, no HD)
-DVR costs about another $10 a month

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#14 2007-02-26 9:40 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

My parents have DirecTV, and I prefer the Dishnet interface for selecting channels and the like. I looked into HD when we were thinking of getting an HD tv, but we'd have to buy a new receiver, and Dishnet charges extra per month for an HD subscription. We don't have any broadcast channels either, let alone HD ones.

It all sort of cancelled each other out, and we bought a pair of quads instead. I guess I'm not that addicted to tv.
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#15 2007-02-27 7:42 am

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

I find less and less on Pay-TV that I want to pay for.  Free HD and digital is fine for me since it is available where I live.

I watch about 5 hours of TV a week now...and dropping.

But occasionally something comes around that is interesting.  Still hardly worth paying 40-90 dollars a month for (typical range of cable and satellite bills).


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#16 2007-02-27 8:23 am

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

NAG wrote:

Part of the reason I don't plan on going HD any time soon. They're just too into making the whole thing a shell game. I'm not going to waste my time and get screwed by them anyway.

Here's what sucks.
I don't have an HDTV. I don't need HDTV service.
But my cable bill just went up - I asked why, they said it was to pay for increased service infrastructure. They didn't say HDTV but I know that's what it is.

In other words, rich folks with HDTV are getting their service subsidized by people like me who only have basic service.

How backwards is that?

Once this next season of Stargate is over, I'm cancelling. When they ask why, I'll tell 'em. Unless they can return me to 2006 prices, they don't get my business. But stupid sci fi channel stopped stargate mid season, and I'd like to see the rest of it (legally) before I cut.


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#17 2007-02-27 8:23 am

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

I have DirecTV here in the canyon, there is no option for cable where I live.


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#18 2007-02-27 9:37 am

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

resedit wrote:

NAG wrote:

Part of the reason I don't plan on going HD any time soon. They're just too into making the whole thing a shell game. I'm not going to waste my time and get screwed by them anyway.

Here's what sucks.
I don't have an HDTV. I don't need HDTV service.
But my cable bill just went up - I asked why, they said it was to pay for increased service infrastructure. They didn't say HDTV but I know that's what it is.

In other words, rich folks with HDTV are getting their service subsidized by people like me who only have basic service.

How backwards is that?

Once this next season of Stargate is over, I'm cancelling. When they ask why, I'll tell 'em. Unless they can return me to 2006 prices, they don't get my business. But stupid sci fi channel stopped stargate mid season, and I'd like to see the rest of it (legally) before I cut.

Yeah, frankly I only watch stargate and battlestar and I can get those off of iTunes. I'm really tired of them making profit off me by confusion. It is really lame.


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#19 2007-02-27 10:32 am

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

The pay per view or download concept is looking better to me also.


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#20 2007-02-27 12:36 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

Dunkin' wrote:

Over The Air:
HD content is very good in the major cities.  I am in Dallas Texas and have 14 digital channels of which ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, Fox have lots of HD available during Prime Time hours, in fact almost 100% HD during Prime Time.  Football is very good in HD.  I use an antenna on the roof so I pay nothing for the HD and other digital feeds.  Check out antennaweb.org for what channels are available in your area.

I'm getting ready to move back to a "big city" (Austin, TX) and I really think I could do  without cable completely if I could get a similar amount of digital channels over-the-air (and if you remember, I was complaining earlier about the poor quality of HD compression with my cable service anyway).

It seems like I should gravitate towards finding a house to rent instead of an apartment, though...as the antenna needs to be placed on the roof. 

That's a lot of planning just for television, but it may influence my decision when I start looking for a place to live.


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#21 2007-02-27 12:47 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

What sucks is, my cable bill went up this month, for nothing.
When I called my cable company to ask them what kind of HD they had, They said that they did not have any HD and had "No plans to introduce HD service at this time. Perhaps sometime in the future."

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#22 2007-02-27 1:51 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

DirecTV's receivers are slow compared to Dish.  I hate the lag of the DTV HD PVR vs the Dish receiver.


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#23 2007-02-27 1:53 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

resedit wrote:

... rich folks with HDTV are getting their service subsidized by people like me who only have basic service.

Umm I have HDTV and I am not rich.  I paid $530 for a Best Buy brand Insignia LCD TV.  Not exactly breaking the bank.


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#24 2007-02-27 3:16 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

Kurto2021 wrote:

resedit wrote:

... rich folks with HDTV are getting their service subsidized by people like me who only have basic service.

Umm I have HDTV and I am not rich.  I paid $530 for a Best Buy brand Insignia LCD TV.  Not exactly breaking the bank.

The business model has new subscribers subsidized by loyal older customers.  The new subscribers get the discounts and free receivers.  It pays (discounts) to change from Dish to DirecTV to cable each time the commitment is up.  Go with the best package.


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#25 2007-02-27 3:30 pm

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Re: Direct TV vs Dish Network.

Kurto2021 wrote:

resedit wrote:

... rich folks with HDTV are getting their service subsidized by people like me who only have basic service.

Umm I have HDTV and I am not rich.  I paid $530 for a Best Buy brand Insignia LCD TV.  Not exactly breaking the bank.

It's really a matter of how you want to spend your money. The "rich" comment wasn't meant to be taken quite that seriously.

For me - buying a HDTV only makes sense if I want to also pay more for HDTV service and buy a HD-DVD or BlueRay player etc. - I'm not ready to spend that kind of money on new equipment, so paying ~ $500 for a low end HDTV just so I can pay a higher bill for HDTV cable is a waste when there are other things I would rather spend money on - like paying off my relatively high interest mortgage and avoiding financing of anything else. TV is not a big part of my life.

I just spent close to $400 on a snake rack though (holds 10 adult kingsnakes using sterilite tubs vertically - so it saves space, easier to clean than aquariums/wood caging, using less power to keep warm, frees up my 20L tanks for this years alligator lizard clutches, etc.)

When I can get a decent quality HDTV (doesn't have to be huge, I don't want a huge TV that dominates my living room - I hate even having one in it) for close to $200 then I might bite. That's probably 4 or 5 years away.


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