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#1 2007-03-19 9:54 pm

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HP Lovecraft rocks my world

I've been reading a lot of HP Lovecraft lately along with other stories from the whole Cthulhu mythos.  I love them.

Any other HP Lovecraft fans among us?


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#2 2007-03-19 11:25 pm

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

Cthulhu is a one syllable word.

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#3 2007-03-19 11:32 pm

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

Yeah, I agree- that anti-semitic racist can write some cool stories!


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#4 2007-03-19 11:35 pm

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

There were a whole bunch of writers in that general genre during Lovecraft's time.  Check out Clark Ashton Smith.  He wrote something titled, I think, "The Whispering Walls" which scared the heck out of me when I read it.


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#5 2007-03-20 12:56 am

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Definitely. I also really like Frank Belknap Long, Robert E Howard, and the aforementioned Clark Ashton Smith.


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#6 2007-03-20 2:41 am

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

Pretty sure I've read every Lovecraft story published, including the fairly racist "Reanimator."  I doubt his attitudes were unusual or extreme in his day, not that that's any excuse.  Oh well, people have flaws.  Still wrote kickass horror & scifi.

EDIT: Even read an Augest Derleth "Cthulhu Mythos" book.  Wasn't bad.

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#7 2007-03-20 2:49 am

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Re-animator was actually the first Lovecraft story I read.  I don't remember anything extraordinarily racist in there.  Am I missing something?


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#8 2007-03-20 11:00 am

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

adndgamer wrote:

I don't remember anything extraordinarily racist in there.

that's because you're an extraordinary racist big_smile lol


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#9 2007-03-20 11:07 am

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adndgamer wrote:

Re-animator was actually the first Lovecraft story I read.  I don't remember anything extraordinarily racist in there.  Am I missing something?

The attitude toward the black man used in one of the early experiments was overtly bigoted.  As the story was told in the first person perspective, it's possible it was intended to portray the callous nature of the protagonist, but that's not the gist I got.


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#10 2007-03-20 2:54 pm

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I had no idea Re-animator was a book. I saw the movie years ago. I also noticed it comes out on dvd today.

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#11 2007-03-20 3:53 pm

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

We love Cthulhu so much that we made him our emoticons over at GTFOutsider.

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#13 2007-08-14 4:12 pm

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

Argh. {shakes fist}


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#14 2007-08-14 4:40 pm

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StaticAge wrote:

Yeah, I agree- that anti-semitic racist can write some cool stories!

why did you bring up his racism?


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#15 2007-08-14 5:14 pm

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I keep expecting this thread to be about an HP-branded pimpmobile, hovercraft edition.


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#16 2007-08-14 5:24 pm

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

Daniel wrote:

I keep expecting this thread to be about an HP-branded pimpmobile, hovercraft edition.

The C'thulhu Is Personal Again.


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#17 2007-08-14 5:27 pm

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lol


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#18 2007-08-14 6:05 pm

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

Tallgeese wrote:

StaticAge wrote:

Yeah, I agree- that anti-semitic racist can write some cool stories!

why did you bring up his racism?

I dont know. Sometimes there's bits of it present in the stories, but mostly its because I just have a hard time praising people who had such ugly ideas. I seriously like reading him though. But I love reading Heidegger too, and I cant stop myself whenever someone says "Heidegger is cool" pointing out, "yeah, a really cool Nazi."


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#19 2007-08-14 7:09 pm

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

StaticAge wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

StaticAge wrote:

Yeah, I agree- that anti-semitic racist can write some cool stories!

why did you bring up his racism?

I dont know. Sometimes there's bits of it present in the stories, but mostly its because I just have a hard time praising people who had such ugly ideas. I seriously like reading him though. But I love reading Heidegger too, and I cant stop myself whenever someone says "Heidegger is cool" pointing out, "yeah, a really cool Nazi."

Well, I'm glad that I can enjoy Lovecraft or Heidegger or Ezra Pound or Richard Strauss...


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#20 2007-08-15 7:33 am

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Hey, I am glad I can enjoy those fascists too.


"Live with your head in the lion's mouth. I want you to overcome 'em with yeses, undermine 'em with grins, agree 'em to death and destruction, let 'em swoller you till they vomit or bust wide open." -Ralph Ellison

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#21 2007-08-16 10:35 pm

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I've read one of Lovecraft's stories, something about a port and Insmuth, and while I love the way he creates atmosphere in his books, I felt kind of let down by the climax.  I guess it's possible I've just been desensitized by modern horror that tends to go overboard to create fear, but it seems like things could have been more... terrible. Perhaps my imagination is also lacking though.

In the above story, for example, I was seriously engaged when the protagonist was trapped in the hotel for the night, and ended up smashing down several doors and escaping through the window.  I could really feel his fear and imagine myself in such a horrible situation.  But when it came to the point where he was hiding out on the railroad tracks and he finally saw the creatures, I was underwhelmed.  Wow, they're some kind of fish people?  Uh, that's terrifying...  So I guess that part kind of lost me, in that I wasn't able to imagine it in the context of reality.  Because undoubtedly seeing a whole bunch of fish people would be pretty damn crazy in real life, but I didn't get that sense from this particular story.

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#22 2007-08-16 11:21 pm

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Re: HP Lovecraft rocks my world

Stuart Gordon's movie, Dagon is based on that story (The Shadow over Innsmouth), and like his other adaptations, Reanimator and From Beyond, it contains the over the top shocks and gore.  But it's true, with a few exceptions, Lovecraft tone is closer in style to Edgar Allen Poe than Steven King.  Most of the horror lies in the mysteries and implications and ideas than explicit events.


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#23 2007-08-17 12:08 am

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Agh! Zombie thread! *runs off*


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