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#1 2007-03-23 7:53 pm

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Buying more than one Windows License...

Recently, and deliberately I put the same copy of Windows XP Pro onto 2 Macs )Parallels). I remember that they bring up a link that allows you to license the copy.

"Great", I think. "Now I don't have to buy a whole new Disc, I just pay for a second license." So I followed the link, filled in my personal contact information, and then it was over. No asking for money, no second CD Key. it said the copy was licensed.

What just happened? Did I give the M$ police my whereabouts so they could come kick in my door? Why didn't they ask for money? Was my personal information payment enough? I know I'm cool, but I didn't know I was that cool.


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#2 2007-03-23 9:13 pm

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

I couldn't understand what you meant by )Parallels). did you mean (Parallels)? If so, it is probably a feature of the program, but considering how strict the EULA is for Windows, probably not.


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#3 2007-03-23 10:23 pm

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

Windows XP allows one or two extra installs, but they're supposed to be "reinstalls."

Chances are, if you ever have to reinstall windows and try to activate it, MS will say no. Your first instinct is right, that's quite illegal.


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#4 2007-03-24 1:10 pm

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

Just don't say anything.  Or go buy a new copy and reinstall it.  You can also do this http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home … ddlic.mspx

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#5 2007-03-26 7:06 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

As far as I know, you can install only one copy of Windows on one machine - for example XP can be used both for Boot Camp and Parallels, for Parallelssupports Boot Camp partitions. But if you try to install the same copy on different machine, even a Virtual Machine, it will go against EULA regulations. Am I right?

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#6 2007-03-26 7:18 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

33specter wrote:

As far as I know, you can install only one copy of Windows on one machine - for example XP can be used both for Boot Camp and Parallels, for Parallels supports Boot Camp partitions. But if you try to install the same copy on different machine, even a Virtual Machine, it will go against EULA regulations. Am I right?

Yes and no. One copy of Windows can only be installed on one machine at a time, but more than one version of Windows can be on the same machine in a dual or multiboot config- e.g., '98SE and XP, or even XP and Vista. Generally best to install the earlier version first, and each to a separate partition (there are exceptions).


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#7 2007-03-26 7:36 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

Bat wrote:

33specter wrote:

As far as I know, you can install only one copy of Windows on one machine - for example XP can be used both for Boot Camp and Parallels, for Parallels supports Boot Camp partitions. But if you try to install the same copy on different machine, even a Virtual Machine, it will go against EULA regulations. Am I right?

Yes and no. One copy of Windows can only be installed on one machine at a time, but more than one version of Windows can be on the same machine in a dual or multiboot config- e.g., '98SE and XP, or even XP and Vista. Generally best to install the earlier version first, and each to a separate partition (there are exceptions).

Oh, I see. Thanks.
Actually I meant XP when I was talking about installing only one copy on one machine - XP or any other copy of Windows can be installed once, but may work together.
That's what I like about Boot Camp support in Parallels - you use one copy of Windoze for both gaming(Boot Camp) and work(Parallels).

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#8 2007-03-30 6:32 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

Bat wrote:

One copy of Windows can only be installed on one machine at a time

Another poke at Microsoft! 
Don't run windows on your Macs! Okay, only if very needed;)
If serious, really one copy of XP can be installed only on one machine, no matter if it is a VM or not.
It has been already said, that Boot Camp support in Parallels is a breath of fresh air for Mac users(if running windows can be actually called "fresh") - one copy of windows can be used for both Boot Camp and Parallels. But few people, as far as I know, use both VM and dual booting.

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#9 2007-03-30 6:43 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

new20user wrote:

But few people, as far as I know, use both VM and dual booting.

There's one at least and that's me.smile
I can't say that I like dual boot - it's far from being as convenient as Parallels, but Boot Camp has something Parallels doesn't have: 3d graphics support!
I never play games (ok, sometimes I do, but very rarely) but my girlfriend does(yes, girls also play computer games;)). That's why I have Boot Camp on my Mac - I just taught her how to turn Boot Camp on:)

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#10 2007-03-30 8:17 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

new20user wrote:

But few people, as far as I know, use both VM and dual booting.

Oh, I didn't think about games! blush I meant "for work"big_smile
In this case, I also have Boot Camp(it's freeware!). And I play games sometimes, when I have spare time. I wish I could do that via Parallels. I know, I know everything about 3d support, it's coming - this all has been discussed a million times already

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#11 2007-03-31 12:40 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

I think DX10 support may take awhile, speaking of gaming.


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#12 2007-04-01 2:53 pm

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

Thanks everyone.  I thought that Microsoft would give me the opportunity to license the 2nd install.  I need Windows for work, but only to run 2 programs.  I don't know how that ) ) got in my post around the name Parallels.  I guess I'll see what happens.


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#13 2007-04-02 9:35 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

Bat wrote:

I think DX10 support may take awhile, speaking of gaming.

I heard that DX10 will work only under Vista - this may be rumours, but it is very possible, that Microsoft will take this stand to make gamers migrate to Vista.

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#14 2007-04-02 5:05 pm

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

DX10 uses a different driver model than previous versions. I'm not sure that makes it flat impossible for Parallels, but it won't be easy.


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#15 2007-04-03 8:08 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

Bat wrote:

DX10 uses a different driver model than previous versions. I'm not sure that makes it flat impossible for Parallels, but it won't be easy.

Yes, I was talking about different driver model. Parallels haven't made DX9 support available yet - and it will take time before they do something about DX10. Nevertheless, Parallels already supports vista, and graphics support is just around the corner.

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#16 2007-04-03 8:17 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

As an addition I will say that due to completely different driver model DX10 will work only under Vista
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32444

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#17 2007-04-03 1:37 pm

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

33specter wrote:

Bat wrote:

DX10 uses a different driver model than previous versions. I'm not sure that makes it flat impossible for Parallels, but it won't be easy.

Nevertheless, Parallels already supports vista, and graphics support is just around the corner.

Vista Home Basic doesn't support Aero Glass, either, so defaults back to the old way. It does not, of course, use D3D9 for graphics accel, but it is graphics support.


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#18 2007-04-05 6:50 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

33specter wrote:

As an addition I will say that due to completely different driver model DX10 will work only under Vista
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32444

Thanks for the info! I knew that Microsoft would need some new tactics to lure people into buying Vista. This, I think will prove to become effective. Gamers will be the first who'll have to buy Vista.

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#19 2007-04-05 11:11 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

Unless the game companies suddenly find that their customers howling about the change. If the market isn't there, and isn't shifitng, the game companies will move very slowly to change.


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#20 2007-04-06 9:38 am

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Re: Buying more than one Windows License...

But as progress arrives companies will make more graphically complicated games and will have to stick to DX10 that will have support only under Vista - this process is interdependent in fact.

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