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Nope. Every time I'm out and about... Wal-Mart, Target, BestBuy, whatever, there's PS3s, 4 or 6 of them and no Wiis. Ever.

Not that this would ever happen, but I would lamo if the Wii became the dominant system of this generation.  I would laugh even harder if Sony dropped out of the race. 

Why must they make such an expensive system?  The PS2 was the least powerful system of the last generation (not counting the Dreamcast) and it still dominated.

Mr. T wrote:

The PS2 was the least powerful system of the last generation (not counting the Dreamcast) and it still dominated.

wut

the ps2 was the most powerful last gen. bar none.

Nicholas D. Wolfwood wrote:

Mr. T wrote:

The PS2 was the least powerful system of the last generation (not counting the Dreamcast) and it still dominated.

wut

the ps2 was the most powerful last gen. bar none.

I sure hope that was not a serious reply. The PS2 was rather poor. Even the Dreamcast could duplicate some of it's abilities to a certain extent. In fact the first PS2 titles barely looked much better than original PS1 games.

mentholiptus wrote:

Isn't the wii close to surpassing the 360 in sales? After only 8 months!

Since 11-05 (20 months): 360 = 11,283,940

Since 11-06 (8 months): Wii = 8,397,256

Pretty sure Nintendo has their "act together"

More than 2.8 million Wii consoles have sold in the U.S. since the November debut, according to the NPD Group, a market research company. That's more than double the number of PlayStation 3 consoles sold. And Nintendo plans to sell 14 million worldwide in the current fiscal year, which ends next March.

So they've sold 5.6 million in the rest of the world?  That seems high to me.  Maybe I'm too cynical.  Don't get me wrong.  I was one of the first to buy one (two days after launch).  I'd love for Nintendo to do well, again (that is to say: crush all competitors).

But, I'd've thought that the US to everyone-else-in-the-world ratio would be 1:1 (no real reason).

Just asking.

Actually they have increased supply.

mo' ron wrote:

NightCougar_37 wrote:

Nicholas D. Wolfwood wrote:

wut

the ps2 was the most powerful last gen. bar none.

I sure hope that was not a serious reply. The PS2 was rather poor. Even the Dreamcast could duplicate some of it's abilities to a certain extent. In fact the first PS2 titles barely looked much better than original PS1 games.

That's bullsmurf.

The PS2 was a good solid leap above the PS1.

You're right though in that it wasn't the most powerful system of last gen.

Here's the order:
XBOX
Game Cube
PS2
Dreamcast

The PS2 and Dreamcast are sorta in the same ballpark (with the edge to the PS2), while the XBOX is significantly better (for instance, Doom 3 is only possible on an XBOX).  The NGC is sorta in the middle but, due to lack of attention from developers, some cross-platform games ended up looking better on the PS2 compared to the NGC.

Though it's true that the PS2 is a quantum leap ahead of the PS1, many early PS2 games looked awful for its generation.  It's not the fault of the hardware; it's because developers needed to get better acquainted with the strengths and weaknesses of the hardware - for instance, shuffling data between VRAM and main memory.

"Base to Rouge Leader, Base to Rouge Leader- Cherry Red is definitely NOT your color. Suggest Midnight Black. Over."

I have yet to see a single Wii for sale in any store I've ever been in.

Bat wrote:

Fact is, Nintendo is still refusing to lay on additional production capacity to satisfy demand- partly to avoid the extra expense, perhaps partly to keep the buzz factor high. In any case customers are going without. Is that a together act?

Didn't they just open a new plant in april?

Yeah, here and here.

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mentholiptus wrote:

Bat wrote:

Fact is, Nintendo is still refusing to lay on additional production capacity to satisfy demand- partly to avoid the extra expense, perhaps partly to keep the buzz factor high. In any case customers are going without. Is that a together act?

Didn't they just open a new plant in april?

Yeah, here and here.

No, they didn't. They increased production a bit, which might be just some overtime &/or a few lines switched from another product. Laying on a new contractor would make sense (tho I believe they have not), but... you don't seriously think a 'Wii plant' could be built in a few months, do you?

NAG wrote:

Um, so why do you think they should have built some then? We don't exactly know what the economics here is but I can at least say by my own experience that Wiis are getting easier to find.

Build? I don't. I expect they contract their production; I'm just saying they didn't build a new Wii factory. Financial analysts have written enough on the situation.

They underestimated demand. OK, but I'm suspecting it suits their book to keep buzz high my not doing more to ease demand, that they've found the 'sweet spot.' Doing more would cut the profit margin, and the 'can't find a Wii so they must be great' factor lessens. No one will die, but it benefits them more than their customers.

I expect the shortage to ease before 2008, but that's Nintendo's line- expect continuing shortages. They won't go further to boost production.